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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    *Nods* There’s people on the other thread about the PF fix saying how this isn’t really Savage difficulty, more like Extreme. But I’d say the rez restrictions and the wipe mechs themselves are what puts it on Savage difficulty. Someone on a discord I belong to listed out 23 specific things that have to be done by people using a specific phantom job, that can cause a wipe if not done correctly. To me, that’s enough to be considered Savage. And it’s also enough room for error for me to put it off even further, if not altogether, if we don’t get a Normal mode added.

    A Normal mode would be something I’d want to do over and over again. This version? Endure it once and never touch it again, assuming I’m lucky enough to clear before I get sick of trying.
    The crazy this is that even Savage lets you try again immediately. And we complained about body checks in Savage not because we want things easy but because it's artificial difficulty. Panda was body check after body check after body check. You had very little options to recover so you had mechanics you couldn't even see until you could run the body check gauntlet perfectly. These past two tiers have been praised because there are still body checks but they're used tactically and allow room to recover and see mechanics. We all complain about add phase in m6s but we also praise it because it's real difficulty in needing to prioritize targets and refine dps to get past that wall. So it's kind of even more head-scratching that they go back to this artificial difficulty when they had a lot of feedback from even the raiding community that we didn't like it either.
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    SeriousPan's Avatar
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    Lugubrious Pan
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    The crazy this is that even Savage lets you try again immediately. And we complained about body checks in Savage not because we want things easy but because it's artificial difficulty. Panda was body check after body check after body check. You had very little options to recover so you had mechanics you couldn't even see until you could run the body check gauntlet perfectly.
    Bodychecks are the teams favourite form of padding for the combat design in this game. Don't know what mechanic to add to make it harder? Bodycheck time! I concur with your point completely.
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