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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Especially since the support fate spawns right before the final boss so not every forked instance reaches it and since it needs to solve the puzzle to spawn it’s actually time optimal to skip it which is a new meta I’m seeing forming the last few days
    Another side effect of the way this content was set up… great, now we have a “meta” that excludes those outside the Tower getting anything at all. No wonder I’ve only seen two support fates! Not that I was planning to build a whole set of +2 gear with only 2 sanguinite at a time anyways, but I thought maybe I’d have a piece or two before the next zone hit.

    So not only am I missing 5 field notes, a TT card and the experience of exploring the Tower at will, but I’ll be even more undergeared than expected going into the next zone. A Normal mode needs to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Another side effect of the way this content was set up… great, now we have a “meta” that excludes those outside the Tower getting anything at all. No wonder I’ve only seen two support fates! Not that I was planning to build a whole set of +2 gear with only 2 sanguinite at a time anyways, but I thought maybe I’d have a piece or two before the next zone hit.

    So not only am I missing 5 field notes, a TT card and the experience of exploring the Tower at will, but I’ll be even more undergeared than expected going into the next zone. A Normal mode needs to happen.
    I’m still questioning how they intend to do gear in north horn

    I’m like 99% sure they won’t make north horn gear upgrade from +2 without making sanguinite more accessible outside of forked but I’m less sure they will attempt to avoid either of

    1) making it so north horn uses a different progression system so +2 remains BIS for north horn
    2) 7.45 phantom jobs are purchasable with sanguinite rather than gold/silver or fates

    Either way if they don’t add a normal (which they won’t) there needs to be an alternate route to sanguinite because this does work like DRS
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Kali Zeruel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m still questioning how they intend to do gear in north horn

    I’m like 99% sure they won’t make north horn gear upgrade from +2 without making sanguinite more accessible outside of forked but I’m less sure they will attempt to avoid either of

    1) making it so north horn uses a different progression system so +2 remains BIS for north horn
    2) 7.45 phantom jobs are purchasable with sanguinite rather than gold/silver or fates

    Either way if they don’t add a normal (which they won’t) there needs to be an alternate route to sanguinite because this does work like DRS
    I think probably the North Horn gear + jobs will be massively overpowered in South Horn content, and they expect that once some people have upgraded they'll be able to steamroll the older raid. Which doesn't actually solve the problem for anyone who doesn't want to join a discord and be carried but I don't think SE cares about anything except clear rate stats
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post
    I think probably the North Horn gear + jobs will be massively overpowered in South Horn content, and they expect that once some people have upgraded they'll be able to steamroll the older raid. Which doesn't actually solve the problem for anyone who doesn't want to join a discord and be carried but I don't think SE cares about anything except clear rate stats
    Eh I don’t think that will fix anything given BA still has horrible clear rates and BA is literally doing level 70 content with level 85 stats
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    So not only am I missing 5 field notes, a TT card and the experience of exploring the Tower at will, but I’ll be even more undergeared than expected going into the next zone. A Normal mode needs to happen.
    They will be absolutely insane if the next zone requires gear upgrades from this zone. Maybe +1 would be fine but not +2 unless they want even worse playerbase pushback.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miguelstein View Post
    I am sure that if Forked Tower had a normal mode and it had the 100 clears for the title I would run it every day for weeks. Actually it is what I was expecting before 7.25 so it was a biiig letdown. I like doing savage, but I prefer playing with 47 guys in a casual environment, Dalriada and Delubrum normal were so much fun.
    I already raid three nights a week for three hours and PF on the weekends. I enjoy raiding too but man we need some downtime to do something fun and less intense just as much as casual or midcore need that type of content.
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 07-02-2025 at 05:01 AM.