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    Quote Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post
    I think probably the North Horn gear + jobs will be massively overpowered in South Horn content, and they expect that once some people have upgraded they'll be able to steamroll the older raid. Which doesn't actually solve the problem for anyone who doesn't want to join a discord and be carried but I don't think SE cares about anything except clear rate stats
    Eh I don’t think that will fix anything given BA still has horrible clear rates and BA is literally doing level 70 content with level 85 stats
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    So not only am I missing 5 field notes, a TT card and the experience of exploring the Tower at will, but I’ll be even more undergeared than expected going into the next zone. A Normal mode needs to happen.
    They will be absolutely insane if the next zone requires gear upgrades from this zone. Maybe +1 would be fine but not +2 unless they want even worse playerbase pushback.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miguelstein View Post
    I am sure that if Forked Tower had a normal mode and it had the 100 clears for the title I would run it every day for weeks. Actually it is what I was expecting before 7.25 so it was a biiig letdown. I like doing savage, but I prefer playing with 47 guys in a casual environment, Dalriada and Delubrum normal were so much fun.
    I already raid three nights a week for three hours and PF on the weekends. I enjoy raiding too but man we need some downtime to do something fun and less intense just as much as casual or midcore need that type of content.
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    Just further evidence that too little thought and planning went into the design of the content. If they cared, they'd put it back in the oven for another patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m still questioning how they intend to do gear in north horn
    Yeah can’t exactly compare to Eureka, because BA was at the end of the content… unless you look at it like maybe this set of gear replaces Eureka’s dyeable level 70 gear grind at the beginning, so there will be a whole new set of gear plus upgrades for North Horn like Eureka did Elemental gear starting in the second half (Pyros iirc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Yeah can’t exactly compare to Eureka, because BA was at the end of the content… unless you look at it like maybe this set of gear replaces Eureka’s dyeable level 70 gear grind at the beginning, so there will be a whole new set of gear plus upgrades for North Horn like Eureka did Elemental gear starting in the second half (Pyros iirc).
    The closest comparison we have is +2 is augmented laws order gear which remained BIS in Zadnor

    But Zadnor also gave us rays which OC already has shades of with phantom mastery stacks
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post
    I think probably the North Horn gear + jobs will be massively overpowered in South Horn content, and they expect that once some people have upgraded they'll be able to steamroll the older raid. Which doesn't actually solve the problem for anyone who doesn't want to join a discord and be carried but I don't think SE cares about anything except clear rate stats
    True, if that ends up being how it works. I would’ve liked to do the content in order, instead of having to start the next zone, complete another gear set there, then see if I can get through FTB when everyone else is going to be focused on FTM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguelstein View Post
    I am sure that if Forked Tower had a normal mode and it had the 100 clears for the title I would run it every day for weeks. Actually it is what I was expecting before 7.25 so it was a biiig letdown. I like doing savage, but I prefer playing with 47 guys in a casual environment, Dalriada and Delubrum normal were so much fun.
    Oh definitely! While I don’t enjoy the setting of Bozja as much as I did Eureka, I still go back in and run those dungeons every now and then. That’s the kind of thing that makes sense to have a 100-clear achievement. I would run it every time it popped til I at least got 1 set of +2 gear and the TT card, which I assume is random drop, and then work on the 100 clears over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I already raid three nights a week for three hours and PF on the weekends. I enjoy raiding too but man we need some downtime to do something fun and less intense just as much as casual or midcore need that type of content.
    Another good point… especially with all the division in the community right now. Everyone wants something that’s fun to do and, especially, fun enough to be repeatable, without it always having to be something super challenging that has to be organized, progged and stress-inducing. That repeatable fun instance was what so many were hoping for in this type of zone and I really hope they’ll reconsider working it in.

    I know it’s not a simple request… but neither is it as time-consuming as creating a whole new dungeon. It already exists, it just needs duplicated with a few tweaks to make a Normal mode, and I think it would be well worth whatever time investment is required.
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    I have one very simple question for people asking for a 'Normal Mode' of Forked Tower.

    Baldesion Arsenal is so popular to this day that many players will go out of their way to join Discord groups for clears.

    Delubrum Reginae is PF-able, and yet there's practically zero listings for it most of the time.

    If Delubrum Reginae is this super-amazing, flawless, example that the devs should follow to the letter for ALL content relating to Occult Crescent, why is it comparatively dead from a player interest standpoint?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    I have one very simple question for people asking for a 'Normal Mode' of Forked Tower.

    Baldesion Arsenal is so popular to this day that many players will go out of their way to join Discord groups for clears.

    Delubrum Reginae is PF-able, and yet there's practically zero listings for it most of the time.

    If Delubrum Reginae is this super-amazing, flawless, example that the devs should follow to the letter for ALL content relating to Occult Crescent, why is it comparatively dead from a player interest standpoint?
    What % of players do you think have actually cleared BA, given it was released in STB expansion (admittingly post, but before SHB release). BA is mostly loved by those that do it, not the wider player base, who wouldn't touch it.
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