Forked Tower: Blood Needs A Normal Mode

[0blivion]

Nah, you're being intentionally obtuse. You can do FTB as a casual. The difference between the people actually doing FTB and the snipers is that the first group actively puts in the effort to organize and learn together, whereas the snipers are the type of casuals who expect to be able to leech off of other people's work.

[RuriStone]

Nah, you're being intentionally obtuse. You can do FTB as a casual. The difference between the people actually doing FTB and the snipers is that the first group actively puts in the effort to organize and learn together, whereas the snipers are the type of casuals who expect to be able to leech off of other people's work.

Again with the throwing insults at people i wonder if you're intentionally predictable.

[BedtimeBear]

"too much money"

[Jeeqbit]

I can assure I would explain it that way regardless of your character details and that everything is meant in the spirit of forum debate. The discussion about definitions was meant to be me just agreeing with you and adding an additional point from my own experience, so I didn't understand your responses initially. I nevertheless was just clarifying what I meant. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

I can summarize my argument very quickly though: nobody is gatekeeping and you're welcome to join FT runs via discord.

I understand there is a natural anxiety that people are gatekeeping. I had that too when I first tried to raid. I am just trying to teach people that this is something a lot us imagine, but if we join the discord runs they're welcoming. Of course there should be a normal mode, but the discords are trying to help make it easier to clear until then.

[Khryseis_Astra]

I understand there is a natural anxiety that people are gatekeeping. I had that too when I first tried to raid. I am just trying to teach people that this is something a lot us imagine, but if we join the discord runs they're welcoming. Of course there should be a normal mode, but the discords are trying to help make it easier to clear until then.

I definitely don’t have any concerns about gatekeeping personally. Especially when those groups are effectively the only way to get this kind of content done. For me, it’s just the hassle of needing to do it this way. I don’t want to have to schedule a run that currently could take hours for both instance hunting and weather waiting, maybe get to the second boss, then wipe and have to try again the next time I can find a run that works with my hectic schedule.

But really I just want that equivalent of CLL/Dal/DRN… I’m only going for field notes, TT card and the sheer fun of exploring the Tower. I don’t want to have to prog anything, I just want to go in and pick myself up off the floor however many times it takes to get through it. It’s the rez restrictions and the inability to just keep pushing through til you’re done that really makes you weigh whether the time you’re investing is going to pay off or not.

[Rizlee]

u say discord, but today i had an unfortunate event happen to me, i was in a discord where u have to sign up in advance to do FT prog, over the weeks i made it till boss 4 mostly deathless (unless someone in group causes wipes), despite that and signing up early and showing up 20 mins before the specified time, i was removed from party and replaced with someone else... they didnt really give me a valid reason but most likely they replaced me with one of their friend or maybe someone who is newer so that their ppl maybe can parse better or something i dont know, but yea this community really isnt as welcoming as it was pre endwalker and they only want u in to fill as bodies to reach their goals... and this was the final straw for me so despite me trying this is a very flawed system they made and i hope the game flops harder and goes in the trashbin, i'll definitely be unsubbing once my current sub runs out (i was already unhappy with the state of drk only raided and played for the few friends that still exist inside the game)

i dont think yoshi p or the devs will grow a brain anytime soon and things will remain stale as is

[Khryseis_Astra]

Sorry you had a bad experience… I’m sure there are plenty of good groups out there that wouldn’t do something like this at the last minute.

But still, the fact that the design of FTB pretty much forces us into having to schedule and coordinate these things outside the game is the issue here. The in-zone version with cipher entry should be a Normal mode. Move the current version with its rez restrictions and wipe mechanics to PF as Savage mode.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Also it would be nice to have an Exploratory mode for the Tower itself. Especially if all the field notes could be obtained that way… just throwing out ideas. But bare minimum I want to be able to explore the Tower and grab the last 5 field notes before starting the next zone.

A Normal mode is definitely preferred, but either way I think it would be cool to be able to go back in and just wander around, kinda like they did for the Nier raids.

[Khryseis_Astra]

They can't do that because they need to prepare new South Horn phantom jobs for us in 7.45 as per their own timeline, which will be tested rigorously in the Forked Tower by people progging.
As of 7.55 I expect them to forget since we'd be getting the new zone North Horn.

Honestly I wouldn’t care if they did FTB:Normal alongside the release of the new zone, just so I didn’t have to start the new zone before completing the Tower. But for them to just say, “oh we didn’t think it was needed or important enough to do,” while saying the next zone will have both doesn’t really make sense since the two Towers are supposed to be mirrors of each other somehow.

This just isn’t content I want to have to prog at all. Extreme Trials, Savage, Ultimate? All those can be queued up again immediately if you wipe. This pretty much requires me to clear a whole day off my schedule and hope I can find a run at a good time for me, even after they add the PF fix, and then do it all over again if we don’t clear.

[Daralii]

Honestly I wouldn’t care if they did FTB:Normal alongside the release of the new zone, just so I didn’t have to start the new zone before completing the Tower. But for them to just say, “oh we didn’t think it was needed or important enough to do,” while saying the next zone will have both doesn’t really make sense since the two Towers are supposed to be mirrors of each other somehow.

This just isn’t content I want to have to prog at all. Extreme Trials, Savage, Ultimate? All those can be queued up again immediately if you wipe. This pretty much requires me to clear a whole day off my schedule and hope I can find a run at a good time for me, even after they add the PF fix, and then do it all over again if we don’t clear.

There was no hard confirmation on FT: Magic having a normal mode, as was clarified to me. It was just a "We'll think about it, maybe".