Forked Tower: Blood Needs A Normal Mode

[Uzephi]

if you enjoy antifun content, then just do anything else in this game. Theme park.. you know? Visit the attractions that you like and stop complaining about everything else, that others might enjoy

Not everyone is masochistic like you. If you enjoy dragging your personal bits across coal, yes this raid is perfect for you.

[Khryseis_Astra]

That thrill is anti fun to some people. I do not like the prospect of killing everyone with 1 mistake, I do not like the reverse of having to trust 40+ people to do their job right. I tried that in chaotic, the only thing I walked away with is feeling like I wasted my time.

(Completely fine that you like it, not tryna bash that)

Chaotic felt like a definite slog, and I had up until that point never seen people in this game be so toxic. To the point where I can’t even bring myself to take my other characters through it. Forked Tower gives me similar vibes, with twice the room for error, and if I ever do it in its current state it will only be once.

if you enjoy antifun content, then just do anything else in this game. Theme park.. you know? Visit the attractions that you like and stop complaining about everything else, that others might enjoy

As I’ve stated multiple times, my goal here is NOT to have the existing Tower nerfed. It should exist for people that prefer that kind of challenge. But it was wrong to not provide a Normal mode for everyone else, especially when this is one of the most popular forms of content for casuals, and they have every right to complain about it. Current Tower should be labeled Savage and get a direct queue, Normal should use the in-zone entry where it makes more sense, and provide more replayability to get the non-mount rewards.

[Raikai]

Chaotic felt like a definite slog, and I had up until that point never seen people in this game be so toxic. To the point where I can’t even bring myself to take my other characters through it. Forked Tower gives me similar vibes, with twice the room for error, and if I ever do it in its current state it will only be once.



As I’ve stated multiple times, my goal here is NOT to have the existing Tower nerfed. It should exist for people that prefer that kind of challenge. But it was wrong to not provide a Normal mode for everyone else, especially when this is one of the most popular forms of content for casuals, and they have every right to complain about it. Current Tower should be labeled Savage and get a direct queue, Normal should use the in-zone entry where it makes more sense, and provide more replayability to get the non-mount rewards.

Honestly, in hindsight, Bozja's raids weren't even that easy. It takes a good while to get mechs right and even when you did so, many of them were more reaction based than puzzle... A ton of people used to mop the floors left and right. I personally think it was just the sweet spot between normal mode and high end.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Honestly, in hindsight, Bozja's raids weren't even that easy. It takes a good while to get mechs right and even when you did so, many of them were more reaction based than puzzle... A ton of people used to mop the floors left and right. I personally think it was just the sweet spot between normal mode and high end.

Exactly… raising your mettle helped, certain actions could make certain parts easier, and in general just learning the mechs over time without getting kicked out if you failed. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t punishingly hard either. That’s what I think a Normal mode of the Tower should be.

[Emitans]

People keep mentioning the passive buff from leveling phantom jobs but I can't see myself grinding out many more than the 2-4 I already have because the entire zone feels pointless if FT is inaccessible. I'm not going to spend dozens of hours grinding phantom jobs so I can maybe attempt their stupidly designed dungeon.

[Sad-Panda]

I’m boycotting the new foray until they put in some form of casual raid, it’s pointless to level the phantom jobs since theres nowhere to use them on if you eschew the savage raid that is FT.
In addition, Yoshida needs to keep Mr Ozma in check and not let him run wild when designing raids. The “oops we made it too hard… again” is tiring.

[TaleraRistain]

I’m boycotting the new foray until they put in some form of casual raid, it’s pointless to level the phantom jobs since theres nowhere to use them on if you eschew the savage raid that is FT.
In addition, Yoshida needs to keep Mr Ozma in check and not let him run wild when designing raids. The “oops we made it too hard… again” is tiring.

I'm not necessarily boycotting it but when I've had time around my raid schedule where I was in OC before I'm just not bothering to go back and I'm doing other things in the game instead. I was up to 8 jobs mastered. I'll go finish the rest for the treasure chest thing on freelancer at some point but I'm not in a hurry. I have gold farming ahead to get glam somewhere, too, but I really hate the tank tower farms and nobody really wants to do it any other way. I don't intend to join a Discord for FT and unfortunately any PF that has popped up on Aether has just been Discords looking for fills. Maybe if they had had the 7.3 measures in place when it dropped we would have been a straight PF community trying it for a bit like Chaotic, but unfortunately it was established as Discord content at least on NA before that came out.

[TeresaFortell]

I’m boycotting the new foray until they put in some form of casual raid, it’s pointless to level the phantom jobs since theres nowhere to use them on if you eschew the savage raid that is FT.
In addition, Yoshida needs to keep Mr Ozma in check and not let him run wild when designing raids. The “oops we made it too hard… again” is tiring.

It would have to be less punishing. Even if they do not make it so, FT needs to be easier to enter than what it is now, because not a lot of people would want to go through the hassle of getting de-levelled, getting re-levelled, waiting perhaps longer than expected, if not in a fresh instance, and then going in and possibly doing a clear. The vast amount of time people spend on doing all of the things just to go back into FT makes the whole process incredibly frustrating.

[Khryseis_Astra]

I’m boycotting the new foray until they put in some form of casual raid, it’s pointless to level the phantom jobs since theres nowhere to use them on if you eschew the savage raid that is FT.
In addition, Yoshida needs to keep Mr Ozma in check and not let him run wild when designing raids. The “oops we made it too hard… again” is tiring.

At this point, the next phantom jobs are the only thing I have to do besides currency grinding, which I can only do for so long before I get bored. At least the new phantom jobs will make it a little more entertaining. But then we still have a long wait until North Horn… they should use that time to make sure both zones get a Normal version of their respective Towers, because I’m assuming FT:Magic in it’s original form isn’t likely to be casual-friendly either. While they might give us both versions for North Horn, they need to do the same for South.

[Khryseis_Astra]

The vast amount of time people spend on doing all of the things just to go back into FT makes the whole process incredibly frustrating.

Even more so with the added difficulty of the rez restrictions and wipe mechanics. Unless you have a perfect team of 48 people and/or get insanely lucky, you will require multiple runs to clear, going through this every. single. time.