Thread: The (Broken) Promise of Tomorrow - 7.3 Expectations

Originally Posted by Alahard

Was it because they wanted the randoms to be a legitimate raid mechanic?????? WHY??????

They felt they had removed too much stress and friction from the game, and wanted to add some of it back in, so I'm going to go with... yes

Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

Losing touch with the Playerbase is the best they could do, maybe Square should just do what Square wants to do, IF this involves that they actually learn from it and dont do the same Mistakes all over again.

Yes and no. From a development standpoint feedback at this juncture is crucial to maintaining their subs because it becomes a sink or swim situation due to how the community is heavily dissatisfied with the content that’s released in Dawntrail. While improvements have been made since 7.0, they feel like they should’ve been there from the start to the point it becomes a kick in the teeth compared to previous works they have made(exempting post-patch Endwalker).

From a community standpoint however, they still have all the power to make this a successful or a failing game - it all depends on how they handle feedback within their team. If anything, Yoshida sees this himself and since he’s the front guy for managing PLLs and development for FFXIV, I can tell even he’s dissatisfied with it and has gotten tired of apologizing out of necessity.

If he’s any kind of person he was back in the early days of FFXIV, I’m hoping he can get things back in shape. If not, FFXIV is going to have their Reverse Warlords of Draenor moment before they can even consider getting player trust back.

Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I've said it before, but it bears repeating.

It really does seem as if YoshiP has forgotten his own wisdom from 11 years ago:

We need to shove this in both Yoshida and the dev team’s face until it’s to the point they can’t forget it because they had their huge success, but now they have their big failure.

Originally Posted by FuturePastNow

They felt they had removed too much stress and friction from the game, and wanted to add some of it back in, so I'm going to go with... yes

But we meant in fight design and class design ( please stop just adding to the 2 minute meta to start).

We didn't mean we wanted the playerbase to be in a constant civil war.

Originally Posted by Hallarem

There's no 10 year plan is there? If there is, this is not really giving any trust towards that

Yoshida pretty much confirmed that when DT's reception was negative and his immediate response was "Um, actually, the plan starts next expansion."

Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I've said it before, but it bears repeating.

It really does seem as if YoshiP has forgotten his own wisdom from 11 years ago:

Looking at this just makes me sad. The amount of failed sections on their own blueprint.

Too bad we can’t have this pinned so that Community Mods could forward this. I like Dawntrail and I haven’t had any issues, but to me Cosmic Exploration and Occult Crescent are busts to me. The missions in Cosmic have a very short time for completion, and I fail to understand the missions with obtaining Collectable items to clear them. And I only have one Demiatma and I’m already losing the drive to pursue any more. To me, I’m really not feeling motivated to get Relics or Cosmic Tools this expansion.

Originally Posted by Saraide

So why exactly did SE feel like the delubrum savage entry system was bad. In the live letter translations I am reading something about not wanting to railroad people or give them as much support and for groups to form "organically".

The thing that is railroading people into organizing on discord is the raid itself being very strict and unforgiving, not the method of entry. I realize I'm asking a "what where they thinking" question when they clearly have not put any thought into this but I feel like the question needs to be asked regardless.

Two main reasons. They didn't like how 'accessible' it was (think snipers and griefers), and their own internal data likely showed DRS falling off after Shadowbringers, while Baldesion Arsenal remained consistently popular. It could very well be that the 'Discord Groups' are indeed what the devs had in mind for tackling Forked Tower from the very beginning.