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    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    Two main reasons. They didn't like how 'accessible' it was (think snipers and griefers), and their own internal data likely showed DRS falling off after Shadowbringers, while Baldesion Arsenal remained consistently popular. It could very well be that the 'Discord Groups' are indeed what the devs had in mind for tackling Forked Tower from the very beginning.
    Which is a shame, because if they just kept the current one as Savage mode and dialed down the difficulty (like rez restrictions, etc.) to make the in-zone version with cipher entry the Normal mode, it could’ve been a really fun equivalent to CLL.
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    My hope is that 7.3 truly ends the Dawntrail story like they said it will and we pivot in 7.4 to what the road to 8.0 will be, which I honestly I have ZERO idea at this point. While ARR laid out foundations in its MSQ and post-patch series, DT has not. Yes, we got the key and and shard travel, but I still don't know if that's the direction they plan to go in. I think we will know soon enough, but I would not be surprised if we are heading for ShB the Sequel in 8.0 and hope to a whole other shard.

    However, time to give Wuk the Lyse treatment and leave that annoying ho behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    My hope is that 7.3 truly ends the Dawntrail story like they said it will and we pivot in 7.4 to what the road to 8.0 will be, which I honestly I have ZERO idea at this point. While ARR laid out foundations in its MSQ and post-patch series, DT has not. Yes, we got the key and and shard travel, but I still don't know if that's the direction they plan to go in. I think we will know soon enough, but I would not be surprised if we are heading for ShB the Sequel in 8.0 and hope to a whole other shard.

    However, time to give Wuk the Lyse treatment and leave that annoying ho behind.
    It's either Meracydia(though I have zero idea what the framing could be) or another shard, but they're running out of those. 9 is for all intents and purposes a dead world, 1 and 13 are recovering from their Floods, and 5, 12, 2, 3, 6, 10, and 7 were all Rejoined.

    A possibility that's been rattling around in my head, especially with all the references to FFV more recently, is that the key will be used to justify random chunks of other shards being grafted to the Source and treated as new continents to explore.
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    Last edited by Daralii; 06-24-2025 at 03:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    It's either Meracydia(though I have zero idea what the framing could be) or another shard, but they're running out of those. 9 is for all intents and purposes a dead world, 1 and 13 are recovering from their Floods, and 5, 12, 2, 3, 6, 10, and 7 were all Rejoined.

    A possibility that's been rattling around in my head, especially with all the references to FFV more recently, is that the key will be used to justify random chunks of other shards being grafted to the Source and treated as new continents to explore.
    You just made a really good point there.

    They could, technically, kill two birds with one stone.... namely have the Warrior of Light and company need to visit Meracydia because we discover that a large chunk of another shard was grafted onto it. I mean, we don't know a great deal about Meracydia - but we do know, from limited in-game dialogue and encyclopaedia Eorzea, that a large part of it is a inhospitable wasteland; it would therefore lend itself pretty well to having a large chunk of another shard 'grafted' onto it.

    Which would lend itself well to a few storylines - I don't know - maybe a large number of Allagans somehow escaped to the shard the chunk is from - I doubt anyone would be happy to see them again, least of all the native Meracydians who are described as being reclusive and "attack any who approach". And Tiamat is likely back in Meracydia too, which could bring Dragons back into the spotlight somewhat - it could even be the case that we find out about all this through her telling Vrtra about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    My hope is that 7.3 truly ends the Dawntrail story like they said it will and we pivot in 7.4 to what the road to 8.0 will be, which I honestly I have ZERO idea at this point. While ARR laid out foundations in its MSQ and post-patch series, DT has not. Yes, we got the key and and shard travel, but I still don't know if that's the direction they plan to go in. I think we will know soon enough, but I would not be surprised if we are heading for ShB the Sequel in 8.0 and hope to a whole other shard.

    However, time to give Wuk the Lyse treatment and leave that annoying ho behind.
    Shard hopping is a good possibility, but on the Source we still have plot threads towards Meracydia, most of Xak Tural is still unknown, Same for Ilsabard and Hingashi. So options are there, we're not lacking in interesting places to visit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    Shard hopping is a good possibility, but on the Source we still have plot threads towards Meracydia, most of Xak Tural is still unknown, Same for Ilsabard and Hingashi. So options are there, we're not lacking in interesting places to visit.
    I agree, but I worry they are going to be enticed to do another shard vs. fleshing out the map we currently have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I agree, but I worry they are going to be enticed to do another shard vs. fleshing out the map we currently have.
    I mean, that was the feeling at the announcement of Shadowbringers and it turned out well. Depends on the story being told there.
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    I'm out of expectations tbh, they said in the LL that it was because of cost that the "customer doesn't want to hear that" which is why FT is the way it is (and probably DT as a whole) which is a pretty big warning sign.

    The other comment that stuck was that they got too comfortable, myself, and probably many others have seen this happening for way too long and if they're now just noticing it's just too late, for me anyways. This also means that FT is gonna be the way it is unless they have a patch to implement what they were saying for queing by allowing premades before 7.3, which is unlikely I'd say.

    What this means is that FT is just gonna be even worse because the people who cleared are done their grind have no reason to do FT anymore and the people who aren't finished are left with dead instances because the premade que system is coming so late which at this rate is just unacceptable, part 2 isn't going to change my mind either sadly.
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    Honestly the only way they’ll get my trust back is when we see in the long term that they’re willing to dedicate resources to where the game is struggling right now for both the casual head and the raider head because that’s the duality they’re struggling to feed right now for both jobs and raids. If anything I’d like for them to make more content for the casual right now since we’ve got a whole ‘nother patch to plow through a raid tier(which is awesome on Normal and Savage btw, including the story). Also, where’s Variant Dungeons?
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    If we go to Meracydia, I just want it to be that - Meracydia. I'd like an expansion which is just focused on one region and doesn't have to drag in the Shard plot (I have so little interest in the Shards and I honestly think they've hurt the overall narrative) But that's just me...
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