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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Exit survey when unsubscribing is laughable

    I recently unsubscribed from FFXIV.

    After completing the process, a "survey" pops up. It contains one question with eight possible answers, of which you can choose one and only one to explain why you are unsubscribing.

    None of these questions make any reference to game content. You can indicate you are taking a break, or have financial issues, or are leaving because your friends are leaving.

    I could have chosen that last option, but I felt the more accurate response was

    "I am no longer interested in the game."

    How much useful information does that give to SQEX? My data point is, of course, irrelevant, but data from tens of thousands of departing players would be incredibly valuable in helping direct the game in a direction players actually want.

    But I don't think SQEX really cares about the players. They have their templates and their schedule, and that is just the way it is going to be.

    Anyone who has played the game for years, investing financially, emotionally and socially, does not unsubscribe without considerable reflection and sometimes pain. I am going to miss my WoL and the world she inhabits dreadfully.

    Abandoning those investments and connections indicates a massive dislocation between the unsubscribing player and the game. Why doesn't SQEX have any interest in the reasons for that dislocation?

    I recently reactivated my EVE Online accounts. I was sent a 20-minute survey containing over 30 questions that asked me how I interacted with the game. What content did I enjoy? What content would I like to see more of? Am I more interested in X or Y or Z rewards?

    I've had a sour taste in my mouth for some time, produced by the apparent indifference SQEX, the director, and the devs show towards the players. Sure feedback occasionally has an effect. It took the 14-related internet to catch fire to compel SQEX to correct issues with FT, which would have never occurred in the first place if they understood their players and, arguably, their own game.

    The funny thing is, had this so-called exit survey indicated the slightest interest in why I was leaving, I would have probably resubscribed for 8.0. Now? Never say never, I guess, but if I do come back it will be to see my WoL again, not because of this callous company.
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    does quitting include obsessively staying in the forums? Maybe dont interact with ff14 at all, if you dislike it that much
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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    does quitting include obsessively staying in the forums? Maybe dont interact with ff14 at all, if you dislike it that much
    See, you're expanding on my point. Had they given me a little box to type "any additional feedback," I could have told them what I thought of a subsection of the community, and how that made my decision easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    does quitting include obsessively staying in the forums? Maybe dont interact with ff14 at all, if you dislike it that much
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    OP got the typical "don't like it, don't engage with it" answer in record time. Guess reading comprehension will always be hard for some.
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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by brinn12 View Post
    OP got the typical "don't like it, don't engage with it" answer in record time. Guess reading comprehension will always be hard for some.
    Oh I don't imagine they read the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    [I]Can you see what you are doing Square Enix?!

    That damage you are causing!

    People are actually relapsing into Eve Online now!
    Haha! I'd be the first to admit EVE is somewhat niche. But it is damning that someone would abandon FF14 to play PvE in a game known best for full-loss, hardcore PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Oh I don't imagine they read the OP.
    Could be worse. I mean, if you posted this on Reddit the 'thread' would simply be downvoted into oblivion.

    That as an aside, whilst am not quite sufficiently offended to cancel my sub I totally agree with you. They're not going to actual learn very much with an exit poll which presents such a limited method of feedback - even a 'any additional information' box would be something, surely? Although I suspect the whole thing is just 'lip service' anyway, really.

    And am going to miss you here, Mawlzy - you've demonstrated a level of understanding toward those who don't find the game very easy that was, frankly, incredibly refreshing in a sea of "get gud" mindsets. I sincerely hope you'll come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brinn12 View Post
    OP got the typical "don't like it, don't engage with it" answer in record time. Guess reading comprehension will always be hard for some.
    In which case I feel compelled to add the obligatory "can I haz ur gil pls kthxbye"

    @OP: From reading this and your other posts it's obvious to me that you're very passionate about the game. It's sad to see you leave, but I think in its current state there is not much in FF14 to foster passion in its players.
    "Games from gamers for gamers" once was the Blizzard slogan, and even when some of those gamer-devs were horrible people, you felt their passion throughout the entire game. Once this was over, the game went down the drain. I think it's much the same with FF14 now, it is a game from clerks and beancounters for the paying customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    I recently unsubscribed from FFXIV.
    ...
    I recently reactivated my EVE Online accounts. ...
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    Can you see what you are doing Square Enix?!

    That damage you are causing!

    People are actually relapsing into Eve Online now! These are real people. With families and loved ones.

    Just how many 100s or even 1000s of hours of League of Legends have you been instrumental in!

    Something has got to give!
    I just don't know how clear the message has to be until you act!


    No, in all seriousness Mawlzy, genuinely really sorry for you. Your WoL represented a lot 'hope' and you cared for it and it's friends. It was a representation of how you cared for yourself. It became 'part' of yourself and then you have to leave that love for yourself behind. I'm confident I know some of how you feel.

    (and I just know there are some sick F savage/FT players out there who like to grief once they've done their clearing. The same people who just shout 'get good' when you can't keep up with the Fate hunt, who genuinely find that hilarious. And yes, they will be the FTers. Because all the rest of the time they are silent in chat when not making people feel shit. Why? They are yapping away on discord to their 'sniper' resenting cronies about the contempt they have for their fellow players. "We will not heal you".)

    - SE, when you 'forcefully' push people away from your game they 'have' to brutally stop caring about their 'WoL'.
    - Then your whole game falls apart except for the 'gameplay'. Because so the rewards, the glams, THE RELICS, the hairstyles, the minions, the mounts, the collecting the furnishings you can't use, (I'm going to repeat that again) THE RELICS, ... they all become worthless.

    Even when I resubbed I knew I wasn't interested in the relic. Relics are for your permanent subbers.
    Not people who "play other games".

    That's really bad if you are counting on it to bring people back after a drought.

    ESPECIALLY if you are so MONUMENTALLY stupid as to not create an normal 'playable' set piece instance, for the now out of practice player.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 06-21-2025 at 02:32 PM.

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