Cost of subs not saved vs cost of a translator?

[Stormfur]

I'm a translator (not Japanese though, sorry!)

And I think there are a couple of reasons why they don't do it:

There are probably very likely internal code-names and such for features or things being developed or that are still in the planning stages. If something (like Raid Designer) got mentioned accidentally in a live translation, as you can see, people have been clamoring for it for years now and it still isn't ready. Maybe YoshiP mentioned it in passing and the translator is too busy concentrating on what's being said to think "oops, that was still in development/planning". Now imagine the ripple-effect of that: mistranslation gets shared in the forum/discord/youtube/X/Reddit, then SE has to go put out all these little fires.

From what I see, YoshiP never gives just straight bullet points when he speaks. It's all coated in metaphor and jokes and nuance and it's SUPER difficult to translate that in between languages to say nothing of cultures.

Didn't SE do live simultaneous translation at the past EU fanfests? Maybe around Stormblood? I seem to remember something like that and there was a lot of awkward pauses, omissions and such and the fans ended up waiting for the official translation anyway, so SE probably just said "why bother?"

[Gurgeh]

No. But that's because nearly everyone speaks American. Even the English now speak American. I'm not saying every live letter. I just mean one like this where it's really useful.

Most of the things I've said have been of no more interest than I intended or they deserved, and it's other people's riffs that have kept the conversation going, but this of all things seems to have been of interests.

The main reason called it American was because:
Bunny referred to American companies (not British companies like Rockstar North). So I drew a parallel from there, or maybe a tangent.
- From there I also used American because while the British speak 'English', North America has added to it.
- this I would stand by though, and that is that the whole world (please don't be pedant over that, obviously not everyone in the whole world), speaks English not because of the X British Empire, not because of US foreign policy, but above all else because of Hollywood.

I used 'American' as short hand for all of the above.

The british would never use the following words the way that US americans would:
Elevator, hood, trunk, highway, sidewalk, apartment, pop, soda, biscuit, gravy, cookie, candy, jelly, aluminum, gas (in parlance), link (in parlance), banger, beer, spirit, eggplant (ever), zucchini (ever), jam, ... loads of others I don't know.

The British do know what is meant when an american uses those words. (Except biscuit)

I think that US would struggle to understand correctly even if used in context, boot, bonnet, flat

Yes it's definately English. I communicated badly by trying to convey the above as a single word nuance.

Oh and the word 'world'.
Yeah, I don't think US americans use that word the same way either. International English is more in line with the british definition... ;-p

Yeah communicated badly. Clearly. See posts I provoked.

[Nadda]

I wonder how many subs they might have failed to keep today because of a rushed unofficial translation and misrepresentation again of the unofficial translation.

This is to Yoshi-P the business man...

How much does it cost to hire a translator for half a day?
Seriously?
Throw yourself a bone here. Its painful.
90,000 JYen? $600 . If you want them to have tea and caikee before and after?

Shit, if I was yoshi I'd consider paying out of my own pocket just to avoid any of this shit I can, and enjoy my glass of red the end of the day that little more.

(points from me for doing the live letter, but shyeet, you can't do this again with putting out savage before you've managed topbut normal out.)

(Maybe this is 4D chess from yoshi. He gave high end a chance to play nicely and all they did was bitch about snipers. So now he has a reason to go, my hands are tied you saw the uproar. No more bonus savage experiments.
You don't go from 1.0 to 2.0 if you not really good with people.)

I am a bit confused as to why there hasn't been that female translator they normally have for press interviews and stuff.

[Vazdan]

I am a bit confused as to why there hasn't been that female translator they normally have for press interviews and stuff.

Because the profits from the game are being used to prop up Takashi Kiryu's NFT addiction.

[BunnyBrat]

To Churchren and Avo you proved my point. Everyone does not speak english. They literally have fans who translate for them just as people do in the west. Yall act like typical entitled americans who go to another country and get mad that no one speaks english or cater to them. It's hypocritical and quite delusional. And I'm done. Yall wanted a response and here it is.

[Supersnow845]

To Churchren and Avo you proved my point. Everyone does not speak english. They literally have fans who translate for them just as people do in the west. Yall act like typical entitled americans who go to another country and get mad that no one speaks english or cater to them. It's hypocritical and quite delusional. And I'm done. Yall wanted a response and here it is.

Imagine this………poor indie company could hire a translator for every officially supported language……….ooooh ahhhhhh shocking

And I’m not even American it’s just ridiculous a company that size doesn’t even translate their official communication outside of (by world standards) a rather niche language that’s incredibly hard to learn

[AvoSturmfaust]

To Churchren and Avo you proved my point. Everyone does not speak english. They literally have fans who translate for them just as people do in the west. Yall act like typical entitled americans who go to another country and get mad that no one speaks english or cater to them. It's hypocritical and quite delusional. And I'm done. Yall wanted a response and here it is.

Glad im German not American, fact is English is the World Language Nr1, every Business or anything which has a Global Market has to do such LiveLetter, Pressconferences or anything in English, if you like it or not, we are not talking about a Journey or "Visiting another Country" in which btw you always find People which can English, we are talking about a WORLD WIDE ACTIVE GAMING COMPANY

[BunnyBrat]

I prefer to engage with people who have fully formed frontal lobes. Remedial is boring and I'm not a teacher.

[brinn12]

To some people here: don't waste your energy arguing over why SE should have an official English translator for the Live Letter. Everyone knows the importance of the language, and that most people who play FFXIV are outside of Japan. Some will just pretend they are oblivious to reality, likely to ragebait. Not worth arguing with those.

[Gurgeh]

I just want CB3 to help themselves.
My argument was PURE economics, pure MATH.
Perhaps this is why they don't.
Unless they translated for D and F too there will be arguments and now it does get more expensive.
And no offence to the French, I admire them more than my own stay-at-home-let-others-fight-for-liberte, sell-the-family-silver compatriots, but they would very probably get bent out of shape if E was the only translation.
So maybe the argument in this thread is why?