Dear SE: Please listen to actual players, not just content creators

[Asari5]

didnt they say something about delubrum was too accessible so they made fork tower less accessible at the LL? not sure why they want content being played by less people

[TaleraRistain]

didnt they say something about delubrum was too accessable so they made fork tower less accessable at the LL? not sure why they want content being played by less people

Especially when they do care about clear rates. They knew there had only been over 400 clears. If you're worried about people doing the content, don't lock people out of doing the content.

[tsuchii]

F* youtubers tbh. Why do people think they're a representative of the playerbase.
They make like... how many views?
There's millions of players and the youtubers only make thousands of views. They should listen to actual player feedback, not some greasy sweaty annoying influencers.

[Kisshu]

didnt they say something about delubrum was too accessible so they made fork tower less accessible at the LL? not sure why they want content being played by less people

From my understanding, this was in regards to the "want it easier to enter FT with a premade" question. They seem to think it was too easy to enter DRS, and that's why they chose to have the current way. And for some reason they look at content of how many people can clear content in x amount of time as a metric for design.

The team has time and time again failed to anticipate how a normal playerbase will interact with content.

[0blivion]

As a midcore player (which is to say, everything up to and including Savage/Chaotic/48man)... I mean, it's fine. The normal mode content in Dawntrail is borderline brainless, just less brainless than EW/ShB. The people who think that's too hard? They want easy. That is beyond what "accessible" entails. But to be honest, I think they could implement a story mode to circumvent that, perhaps as an extension of the trust system.

[Valence]

As a midcore player (which is to say, everything up to and including Savage/Chaotic/48man)... I mean, it's fine. The normal mode content in Dawntrail is borderline brainless, just less brainless than EW/ShB. The people who think that's too hard? They want easy. That is beyond what "accessible" entails. But to be honest, I think they could implement a story mode to circumvent that, perhaps as an extension of the trust system.

Trust system this trust system that. Everything that's deemed too "brainless" has to be shoved behind NPCs and not worth considering multiplayer content.

[Rawazh]

I completely agree, i'm tired to feel excluded of all the cool content with the awesome glams and mounts, because it's set on savage difficulty.
I was super excited to explore the forked tower, because i thought it would be like castrum/DR or Dalriada - instead i'm stuck outside, forced to watch hardcore gamers having fun, while all i have is 3 CE, two fates and a pot that is trying to kill me in a cave.
I'm tired of being gatekeeped from the lore content and fun because i'm getting too old without much time to commit for hours every day to learn 500 mecanics and join 50 discords in hope to set a foot in any new content.

I'm tired to see the same hardcore players spitting on the game every chance they get because they dare get bored for one second between ultimates / chaos / savage / orthos / criterion dungeons / BA / DRS and now Forked Tower

Thank you for giving us, 3 quests a day with tribes, one quest a patch with Hildy, 1 dungeon, one trial with awful color settings, one unreal 15mins a week, one alliance raid with the worst glam you could possibly find, roulettes that always end up in cristal tower, a lotery system with an impossible chance to win a house, treasure maps with the worst luck and drop rate.

Surely, for people who keep the game alive paying every months, you reward us well, by telling us all the money you get from us is allocated to please people who don't care about the game at all - Can you stop this toxic relationship you have with them please? No one cares about their videos on youtube, they are irrelevant for the majority of the player base.

[Hanzz96]

I completely agree, i'm tired to feel excluded of all the cool content with the awesome glams and mounts, because it's set on savage difficulty.
I was super excited to explore the forked tower, because i thought it would be like castrum/DR or Dalriada - instead i'm stuck outside, forced to watch hardcore gamers having fun, while all i have is 3 CE, two fates and a pot that is trying to kill me in a cave.
I'm tired of being gatekeeped from the lore content and fun because i'm getting too old without much time to commit for hours every day to learn 500 mecanics and join 50 discords in hope to set a foot in any new content.

I'm tired to see the same hardcore players spitting on the game every chance they get because they dare get bored for one second between ultimates / chaos / savage / orthos / criterion dungeons / BA / DRS and now Forked Tower

Thank you for giving us, 3 quests a day with tribes, one quest a patch with Hildy, 1 dungeon, one trial with awful color settings, one unreal 15mins a week, one alliance raid with the worst glam you could possibly find, roulettes that always end up in cristal tower, a lotery system with an impossible chance to win a house, treasure maps with the worst luck and drop rate.

Surely, for people who keep the game alive paying every months, you reward us well, by telling us all the money you get from us is allocated to please people who don't care about the game at all - Can you stop this toxic relationship you have with them please? No one cares about their videos on youtube, they are irrelevant for the majority of the player base.

Can you please stop pretending that only YouTubers and Streamers do Savage and Ultimate content because that simply isn't the case. Certain glams and lore should be locked behind high end content because its an incentive for those who make the time to learn the mechanics and enrage with the content. And yes I mean make time because yes you may be too old and short on time but most raiders work full-time jobs and set their short free time aside to learn these fights because they enjoy them, if you can't or won't put the time aside you shouldn't get the same rewards as those who do, otherwise why would they engage in the content?

Also yes high end raiders care about the game. We aren't the devil but we also don't see why casual players should get the same mount as us for no work.

[aiqa]

We aren't the devil but we also don't see why casual players should get the same mount as us for no work

Who is asking for "no work"? Casual players asking for the rewards tend to ask for those rewards for content they enjoy. Not just for the content they don't enjoy.

Straw mans aren't really a great look if you want to show hardcore players are such a nice and reasonable bunch.

[Rawazh]

Can you please stop pretending that only YouTubers and Streamers do Savage and Ultimate content because that simply isn't the case. Certain glams and lore should be locked behind high end content because its an incentive for those who make the time to learn the mechanics and enrage with the content. And yes I mean make time because yes you may be too old and short on time but most raiders work full-time jobs and set their short free time aside to learn these fights because they enjoy them, if you can't or won't put the time aside you shouldn't get the same rewards as those who do, otherwise why would they engage in the content?

Also yes high end raiders care about the game. We aren't the devil but we also don't see why casual players should get the same mount as us for no work.

I'm glad you are able to read a sentence, i'm sorry for you not being capable of reading the entire room.

Engaging in savage content doesn't make you above the rest of the player base, the time you put in there is equal the time casual gamers put somewhere else in that same game, what are you on about?
Just because you get a good grade at school, doesn't allow you to be condescendent towards your other classmates you know?

We're both paying the same amount of money at the end of the month to play the same game, so no, you're not above the rest of the playerbase just because the time you allow is different than mine in there.
Just because you're younger or have much capabilities, doesn't allow you to gatekeep all the rewards.
I'm playing everyday with my friends, and one of them is 60y/o, she loves the game as much as everyone, she spends time lvling and crafting, she engages in content as much as she can, but you'll never see her in savage nor ultimate, nor even in forked tower , but she was in castrum, in DR, in Dalriada - So why is she being punished for her age, while she pays as much as you ?
Who are you?

Even world of warcraft allow casual players to get the same rewards by different ways, they understood that their player base is getting old, is having a full time job, a family and they don't have the time to allow huge amount of hours to their game, and they still think about them, they still provide ways for the casuals to still keep up with the hardcore ones.
You're the part of the community no ones like, you're the kind of person who thinks that, since they get the better grade for "working more", others are not worthy.