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    Altina_Orion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandraxx View Post
    Compatible players = unemployed and on PC so they can have Splatoon? You sound pretty mad over some garbage shit content that's cheated to death anyway by the few people who care about it...why not play an actually competitive game if you're so HC?
    Not to completely disagree, but splatoon isn't some automatic thing. I DONT USE IT DEVS, but I do know what someone needs to make the presets for them, which means once strats are known, splatoon can be developed, but if you are a "hardcore" prog group, you will not get to use it. It simply won't catch up to your prog point. I don't think people should use it, but this post comes from a place of ignorance and bitterness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Not to completely disagree, but splatoon isn't some automatic thing. I DONT USE IT DEVS, but I do know what someone needs to make the presets for them, which means once strats are known, splatoon can be developed, but if you are a "hardcore" prog group, you will not get to use it. It simply won't catch up to your prog point. I don't think people should use it, but this post comes from a place of ignorance and bitterness.
    Pretty much. People who do raid when content first comes out and specifically take PTO for it have 0 tools that solve the mechanics for them.
    Probably they are just vomiting something they saw mentioned by other people, also with a poor understanding of the tools mentioned, just because it's the hardcore vs the "casuals" debate.

    Also, regarding HC raiding, there are 2 variations of it. One that is all about competing in the world first run and which does require a lot of prep, and one that doesn't necessarily aim to compete for it, but they want to clear it asap, and a lot of hours are being sunk in.

    The more accepted definition in the raiding community of what casual/midcore/shc/hc means refers to time/ week, mostly, and does not necessarily refer to the type of content; EX/savage/ults.

    PS: FRU had all strats out by week 3 xd! I have a slide from day 1 for phase 1 of the fight (which is still valid to this day). Also, a lot of SIMS for the first few phases in the first week. Some people are truly insane (in a good way).
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    Last edited by Kohashi; 06-28-2025 at 06:29 PM.

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    The craziest thing to me was that if Yoshi-P hadn’t replied to that fan comment about the possibility of there being an Ultimate in 7.3, they would likely have not brought it up at all and we’d have been in the dark until Part 2 of the Live Letter, it’s like they didn’t think the lack of an Ultimate was an important detail which is wild if so…

    Personally I’m a proponent of having an Ultimate in X.11 and X.51 to fill the content drought and justify having a TEA+ difficulty Ultimate and then a second one which is more challenging akin to DSR/TOP. However, there’s no guarantee we’ll actually get a second Ultimate in 7.51 and there could be a repeat of the DSR situation… I’m not saying we’re entitled to Ultimate content per se (I’ve done Savage tiers despite there being no Ult afterwards like Promise and Anabaseios just for the fun of it) but it would be nice to have some sort of capstone content to use that Savage BiS in aside from demolishing roulette/FATEs slightly faster…
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    Lua Navkov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    Not to completely disagree, but splatoon isn't some automatic thing. I DONT USE IT DEVS, but I do know what someone needs to make the presets for them, which means once strats are known, splatoon can be developed, but if you are a "hardcore" prog group, you will not get to use it. It simply won't catch up to your prog point. I don't think people should use it, but this post comes from a place of ignorance and bitterness.
    Considering they asked the OP to play a competitive game, it's likely a rage-bait. It's still hard to tell, since so many posts here were made out of ignorance and failed to understand the OP complaints. Or some people really think it's okay for SE to announce there will be an Ultimate just one month before its patch, when some people spend 4 months in Savage and still can't get more than 2 weapons.
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    Putting aside what changes they actually make in the actual game, every time I watch the LL I can't stop laughing at how poorly and badly designed it is. Showing papers and filming with the phone, talking about small features endlessly... I like being stuck in the 90-ies too, I guess.

    It's just another confirmation of how stuck in the past they are
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    Last edited by Kohashi; 06-24-2025 at 08:49 PM.

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    Honestly an ultimate in the .5 of a patch makes more sense anyway. Going to be a long drought anyway until next expansion, so why not in addition to an extreme and some savage floors, throw an ultimate into the mix as well to keep high-end raiders preoccupied?
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    There was never a reason to expect there would be an Ultimate in 7.31. They have always... ALWAYS given us teasers and/or talked about releasing an Ultimate more than 6 months ahead of time. It makes far more sense to put it in 7.51 anyway.
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