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    Lua Navkov
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    The devs waited ~45 days before 7.3 to announce there is no Ulti. This kind of information should be given when the Savage tier releases, as a sign of respect for players' time. OP has every right to ask for more transparency, and they are not entitled by any means. It's a clear move to ensure the Savage tier doesn't lose players.

    (I'd still be fine with this, if it didn't take up to 4 months to get 2 weapons, or 7 weeks to get BiS)
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    Last edited by brinn12; 06-21-2025 at 05:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I'm pretty sure they've said in the past they can't guarantee a set schedule for Ultimates.

    So you made assumptions based on nothing and put in work you had no assurance was going to be necessary and now you're getting mad.

    You also do this after the LL that slapped casual and midcore players in the face by telling them when there was a choice between normal FT and hard FT, they chose the version that excludes more of the playerbase. Now you're here whining you don't get more exclusive content when you want it.

    Before you start, I'm a Savage raider. I've eaten well this expansion. But you just sound completely entitled.
    i don't get how i'm entitled when i all i want is more notice of whether doing splits or not is required for those of us in the hardcore scene? I don't care about the lack of a 7.31 ultimate, i wanted a 7.51 ultimate, I'm upset that from a player standpoint, there's no way they didn't know about not being able to deliver a 7.31 ultimate on time, so therefore we should have received even just a one-liner prior to 7.21 or even around that time frame that said "hey guys, can't do a 7.31 ultimate, sorry" and then I would've been fine with that

    The inverse of this argument would be if they had announced a 7.31 ultimate, and people didn't prep for one on the basis that there was no notification at all until the PLL. It's a simple ask for more time of a notice so people can actually plan what it is they want to do, and not have to guess as to what content we'll possibly be getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    I appreciate the response for it and I do know about those, my point is I don't think they should be necessary when there are important bits like that discussion in the beginning; these should be already translated. (Also I should point out my comment earlier was about that, not so much that we aren't getting Ultimate. I'm not super mad about that point) The second part of the Live Letter was fine being the way it was.
    I ran into a big problem this time when three different sources had three different translations, which is uncommon.
    A slide/lodestone post with a summary of the response to each question (in E,F,D), prepared in advance, would be completely trivial and solve this issue. It's not like anyone cares what Yoshi-P is rambling about; an increasing fraction of the player base doesn't believe half of what he says anyway.
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    Please quit telling me to unsubscribe; I already have.

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    I don't care about it, but I do believe they need better structure for these Live Letters. 80-something in, and they still have no English translator? On top of that, Yoshi kind of rambles on about things lately. It was the pixel on the lala's cheek all over again, with the chat bubbles. Why are we talking about it for sooo lonnng. He needs to figure out how to get the important info out more efficiently. And I did NOT appreciate having to wait all the way until the very tippity top end for him to say 'btw no housing until next stream' omg, if you let me know that from the start I woulda just skipped this LL and stayed in bed!! Do you need my one little view THAT bad??? Trying times I guess!! Let us know what he's going to talk about each LL ahead of time please and thank you.
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    just watched the summary before the watching the LL
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    i was like 'ok no chat bubbles in 7.3'... and then they talked more and more about it.
    why when its not even in this patch? xD
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    without fun jobs none of the content is fun

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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I think it’s fair to say you can derive enjoyment from ultimate even if you don’t do ultimate (I know I enjoyed the FRU world first even if it was more fun to watch the crash out over plugins) but I don’t think that extends to anything besides ultimate. The savage and savage analogues (chaotic and criterion) don’t reach remotely the same highs

    Even though I don’t do new ultimates anymore I still support them for the community engagement, but I also wouldn’t try to sell something like chaotic as community engagement (though stats show CAR was actually super popular)
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by churchren View Post
    If you agree with me, please upvote so this can hopefully be seen by people with actual authority

    I am quite incensed at the casualness of Yoshi-p in announcing there was no 7.3 ultimate

    Why?!
    Hardcore raiders were literally having their fill with Chaotic released right with Fru. I think you need to realize there's other people who don't play the game at those levels because they've let their casual player base suffer for quite some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    Hardcore raiders were literally having their fill with Chaotic released right with Fru. I think you need to realize there's other people who don't play the game at those levels because they've let their casual player base suffer for quite some time.
    you literally just stopped reading my post didn't you? I'm mad because they didn't give us a notice until the PLL that there would be no 7.31 ultimate, thereby causing me and my group to waste our time with split clears and ulti prep. I don't care about the lack of a 7.31 ultimate itself, i just wanted to know before we had spent all the time prepping for one that we had ample reason to believe they would deliver one otherwise
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchren View Post
    you literally just stopped reading my post didn't you? I'm mad because they didn't give us a notice until the PLL that there would be no 7.31 ultimate, thereby causing me and my group to waste our time with split clears and ulti prep. I don't care about the lack of a 7.31 ultimate itself, i just wanted to know before we had spent all the time prepping for one that we had ample reason to believe they would deliver one otherwise
    So you're mad because you "Thought" there was going to be one in 7.3 thereby forcing you to waste your time doing split clears and prep?
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