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  1. #1
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    Nadda's Avatar
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    Nadda Daweel
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    7.3 is insufficient (Relic,Deep Dungeon and Cosmic Exploration has to carry 4 Months)

    Those who know me on the Forums, I'm generally the person who is mostly positive while still critical about things.

    Today I am unfortunately checking myself in the mostly Negative Section of the discussion.

    This is unacceptable.

    1 Week's worth of a MSQ (Dungeon and Trial) AT BEST.
    An Unreal which let's be honest does anybody really get excited for Unreals? They are just upscaled old EX's they don't do anything differently. Hell most of them are probably easier since you have 30 additional levels of answers for level 70 problems.

    An Alliance Raid. Which isn't really engaging content, it's a FF11 Theme Park ride.

    A New Treasure Hunt Dungeon, which is all well and good except you're gonna be traversing the hollow husk of Living Memory every time you're doing treasure hunts with friends.

    So what does that leave?

    Cosmic Exploration will have a new planet to visit and the new Beast Tribe. So Crafters will have interesting stuff to do.

    Deep Dungeon, with some sort of 4 Man boss at the end. Who's gonna be doing a Deep Dungeon everyday outside the people who are already really incredible at it?

    Like who's DOING it Doing it... and not just sticking their head in for a look see? Because that's what I'm gonna do - and it won't even really be that far.

    And a Relic Grind. (which could literally be anything)

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    Silver lining, don't get me wrong, lots of nice Quality of Life stuff coming in this and future. Got the cool raid planner thingy, Chat bubbles, Vierra and Hrothgars will be able to wear some amount of headwear that's a win. The housing resizing thing.

    In fact, Dawntrail has had a lot of many amazing Quality of Life features added this expansion.

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    Am I the only one who would have liked to have gotten Beast Master this patch? Give people a reason to go out there and level something new and unique.

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    I'm angry and I'm disappointed. I felt like 7.2 did a good job. I wasn't harsh on 7.1 because I knew 7.2 was gonna have good stuff and it did.

    Now 7.3 is basically 7.1.2 We're going backwards in content.

    I'm tired of having patches that are MSQ for a week and then fucking nothing for 4 months. If you don't have enough content for a Four Month window the dev team needs to change course and go back to Three Months. Four Months is too long.

    Why can't I have a Criterion dungeon for 750 gear alternatives? Why isn't that in here? WHY isn't a Variant/Criterion maybe a part of what a Relic Grind... COULD Actually be?

    I don't know it's my gut reaction. I know people are more receptive to negativity than positivity lately and I don't want to pour gasoline on the fire but this isn't good enough. I've been critical where I needed to be and this isn't it. I do encourage ultimately anybody who enjoys the content to continue to do so. I'm still going to but I'm very disappointed at this content cadence.

    I'm sorry I really am I needed to get this off my chest.
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    No Variant and Criterion dungeons either when it was the perfect time to give us at least one.
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    Katherine Thorn
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    No news on Beastmaster or Blue Mage either
    Keeping them both for 7.45 is kind of wild.
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Overreaction.

    First of all, you're not going to get every piece of content day 1. It's going to be staggered.
    Second, sometimes it's ok to just not sub for a month or two. There are plenty of other games, which want to be played.
    Third, you've listed quite an amount of content. It just feels less to you, cause you're just not interested in most of these thus not in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Overreaction.

    First of all, you're not going to get every piece of content day 1. It's going to be staggered.
    Second, sometimes it's ok to just not sub for a month or two. There are plenty of other games, which want to be played.
    Third, you've listed quite an amount of content. It just feels less to you, cause you're just not interested in most of these thus not in the game.
    Sure, remove auto demo then if it's okay to constantly play other games.
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    I think another frustration for me about the 7.3 patch is that by it not having an Ultimate or Criterion it almost invalidates the point of grinding for BiS gear in Cruiserweight Savage. Now I know some people will say it's about the journey rather than the destination, and I will say Cruiserweight Savage was a great experience and one of my favourite raid tiers to date, but I want to be able to use the new gear I acquired for something more than demolishing FATEs or roulette duties slightly faster than before... Like I've always advocated for Ultimate being in the x.5 patch to give more time for people to clear it and potentially introduce a more difficult encounter like DSR/TOP due to the extra time to beat it on-patch, it makes sense for player retention to since it keeps people invested after the third Savage tier. However, I think the Savage BiS from each tier should have some sort of purpose otherwise what is the point of it giving more powerful gear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    Sure, remove auto demo then if it's okay to constantly play other games.
    Or at least extend it to a five/six month period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    Sure, remove auto demo then if it's okay to constantly play other games.
    I'm not a dev.

    Plus, if I'd have to decide between RL money or a plot in a game, I'd pick first option.
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Overreaction.

    First of all, you're not going to get every piece of content day 1. It's going to be staggered.
    Second, sometimes it's ok to just not sub for a month or two. There are plenty of other games, which want to be played.
    Third, you've listed quite an amount of content. It just feels less to you, cause you're just not interested in most of these thus not in the game.
    Bro we understand some like to troll people with toxic positivity but i don't think it's a good time.
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  10. #10
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    Aurelia Fray
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I'm not a dev.

    Plus, if I'd have to decide between RL money or a plot in a game, I'd pick first option.

    That's not even the argument being made. SE keeps auto-demo on because they know people will stay subbed to keep a house they had to fight for and spend ages trying to get.

    People also really need to stop falling back on "if you don't like it, leave" and start holding the devs/creators accountable for not holding up to their end of creating content that people pay a monthly subscription for. As big as XIV is, there's no reason that someone should be forced to take a break from the game, because SE can't provide content. And that's literally what it's come down to.

    But please, continue to tell people to quit the game because the dev team can't, and won't, do their job, and you want to be offended on Yoshi P's behalf and think your sub money is being well spent on not getting anything from it.
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