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    I mean, if they lack man power, why does it contradict with the previous sentence? Ofcourse, I do want to remind it could be an translation error here; but it's still confusing.

    Y "I've been feeling that our quality of service has declined recently, I am very sorry for that"
    Y "Too many bugs that we need to have an emergecy maintenance or a hotfix for"
    Y "I've talked to the community team and the developer team about this"
    Y "It feels like we got used to things a bit too much and got comfortable"
    Y "We grew bigger and processes didn't fully work the way we had intended them to, we want go improve this again"
    Y "Especially with new and big content that we have recently released, this was difficult"


    Or am I misunderstanding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I mean, if they lack man power, why does it contradict with the previous sentence? Ofcourse, I do want to remind it could be an translation error here; but it's still confusing.

    Y "I've been feeling that our quality of service has declined recently, I am very sorry for that"
    Y "Too many bugs that we need to have an emergecy maintenance or a hotfix for"
    Y "I've talked to the community team and the developer team about this"
    Y "It feels like we got used to things a bit too much and got comfortable"
    Y "We grew bigger and processes didn't fully work the way we had intended them to, we want go improve this again"
    Y "Especially with new and big content that we have recently released, this was difficult"


    Or am I misunderstanding?
    Oh they're certainly growing bigger, the question is about this growth catching up with the game's growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Or am I misunderstanding?
    All that about processes is about what I figured. If you have too much string you can trip over it. Ironically too many developers can be a problem if not managed well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I mean, if they lack man power, why does it contradict with the previous sentence? Ofcourse, I do want to remind it could be an translation error here; but it's still confusing.

    Y "I've been feeling that our quality of service has declined recently, I am very sorry for that"
    Y "Too many bugs that we need to have an emergecy maintenance or a hotfix for"
    Y "I've talked to the community team and the developer team about this"
    Y "It feels like we got used to things a bit too much and got comfortable"
    Y "We grew bigger and processes didn't fully work the way we had intended them to, we want go improve this again"
    Y "Especially with new and big content that we have recently released, this was difficult"


    Or am I misunderstanding?
    The worst element of this is that he's forgotten his own 'wisdom':
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    Same reason we have Ultimate : Hard content creates publicity and community effervescence, be it because of organizing stuff or just following along. When Bozja came out at first, people complained about the lack of hard content à la Baldesion. And that Castrum was a snoozefest.
    So it feels reasonable for them to have the whole zone and CE for casual enjoyment, and Forked Tower for more hardcore people.
    The best solution is a normal and savage mode of course, but choosing between the two, I suppose it made more sense to give player a hardcore part for the island exploration.
    Publicity, right.
    So it's essentially content made for the streamers and their audience to enjoy. Not for the _actual_ players, they are not the ones on their mind when they design content. Meanwhile, the streamers will finish it a few times and then they will stop once they have everything they wanted. It's content that's destined to die. Pretty, new and shiny at first, but not built to last.

    One thing 14 was known for was exactly the opposite: That content was always doable in some sort of form, it was always accessible. With content like Forked Tower? Except discord groups doing it now and then, I don't think it will be accessible in the future. Even worse than BA at the state it's in right now, and the bad reputation it has among the player base does the rest.

    Might be that you're right and this is their exact thought process behind this fiasco. We don't really know and maybe we never will, because they don't like to explain themselves.
    But this just means what I wrote a few posts before: This game is not meant for casuals anymore.
    At this point, I don't even know why I'm still playing tbh...because it's just tireing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    Publicity, right.
    So it's essentially content made for the streamers and their audience to enjoy. Not for the _actual_ players, they are not the ones on their mind when they design content. Meanwhile, the streamers will finish it a few times and then they will stop once they have everything they wanted. It's content that's destined to die. Pretty, new and shiny at first, but not built to last.

    One thing 14 was known for was exactly the opposite: That content was always doable in some sort of form, it was always accessible. With content like Forked Tower? Except discord groups doing it now and then, I don't think it will be accessible in the future. Even worse than BA at the state it's in right now, and the bad reputation it has among the player base does the rest.

    Might be that you're right and this is their exact thought process behind this fiasco. We don't really know and maybe we never will, because they don't like to explain themselves.
    But this just means what I wrote a few posts before: This game is not meant for casuals anymore.
    At this point, I don't even know why I'm still playing tbh...because it's just tireing.
    I mean, BA had a shit reputation and was even worse to access IMO, on top of harsher rules about death. FT has issues, but it is more accessible and clearable than BA. People will keep doing it the same way they keep doing DSR and BA today.
    If you're tired, I'd suggest dropping the forums and maybe the game for a while, a videogame is not supposed to elicit that kind of feelings on a regular basis, it's not really healthy.
    (and the forums, no matter the subject are mostly an anxiety-inducing pit tbh)
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    I know this will sound crazy, but maybe Square shouldn't have put CS3 in charge of at least 3 additional projects and put one of the only products keeping them afloat in a death spiral. Yoshida is obviously not blameless in that given where he is in the company hierarchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    I know this will sound crazy, but maybe Square shouldn't have put CS3 in charge of at least 3 additional projects and put one of the only products keeping them afloat in a death spiral. Yoshida is obviously not blameless in that given where he is in the company hierarchy.
    This. And it seems clear that he's not completely oblivious to this either, judging by his comments at the start of the stream.
    Y "I've been feeling that our quality of service has declined recently, I am very sorry for that"
    Y "Too many bugs that we need to have an emergecy maintenance or a hotfix for"
    Y "I've talked to the community team and the developer team about this"
    Y "It feels like we got used to things a bit too much and got comfortable"
    Y "We grew bigger and processes didn't fully work the way we had intended them to, we want go improve this again"
    Y "Especially with new and big content that we have recently released, this was difficult"


    Which is worrying, because when your problem is created by repeatedly hitting yourself in the face, step one is to stop hitting yourself in the face instead of continuing to do so while announcing that you are well aware that a bloody nose is not optimal and are looking into ways to stop the bleeding.
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    So, I got they did not do the easy mode because of "cost", but do they plan to add one after the backlash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    So, I got they did not do the easy mode because of "cost", but do they plan to add one after the backlash?
    Translation was a bit unclear, either they're adding a normal mode down the line, or the next one will have a normal mode (that information is certain, just not sure about the normal mode for the first one)
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