Predictions for OC/FT Live Letter

[Gurgeh]

Grow up. This is embarrasing.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me, Sardine.
I'm a progliar, progliar and my pants are on fy-ar!

[Daralii]

I think they already blew their one free "oopsie-daisy" on Chaotic's difficulty being higher than spec. They can't just come out and say they aren't going to do anything at all.

They'll say that they are going to do something in 8.X5's zone(s). I have zero confidence that they'll touch FT, and fully expect its counterpart to use the same system.

[Jeeqbit]

Normally, I would expect them to make a brief comment of 2 sentences on it and then make slight adjustments such as a buff or an added reward, like what happened with the CLL rewards.

But they are dedicating Part 1 to it. That's over an hour, possibly over 2 hours.

That is a pretty good indicator to me that they will announce changing various things about it. However, some of the changes might take them time which is probably why they haven't reacted sooner.

They will likely fully explain their logic and reasoning behind it, because they have to fill the 1-2 hours with something and usually their filler discussion is talking about intentions and thought processes.

Also, OP, you know very well at this point that Discord is not a cartel (you can freely join one and be welcomed), and raiders are not "upper class" - the callouts on discord are to help people clear who don't otherwise know what they are doing.

[Kaurhz]

They will comment on it, and that's about it I think

9/10 it's just silly little platitudes, that serve no other purpose other than to try and pretend like there's care going on.

To be honest, didn't even know there was a Live Letter, that's how disinterested I've been in the game itself

[Fawkes]

But they are dedicating Part 1 to it. That's over an hour, possibly over 2 hours.

They are also going to be talking about Cosmic Exploration, which is pretty dead.

Though I feel like it mostly wasn't bad outside of some of the numbers needing to be tweaked. I think people just don't need crafting EXP as much which is why there's less participation than Firmament. People jumped servers and clogged up Firmament zones just for the construction FATEs, because they gave crafting EXP and there wasn't as many ways to get it back then. Now people don't need EXP as much and just get annoyed by the construction FATEs because they block Red Alerts that give a pile of currency and tool progress.

Also nobody liked the tight timers and higher difficulty of later missions.

[mallleable]

The 'feedback' section also included Cosmic Exploration so I'm expecting some changes to that as well, and how Planet #2 will be different from The Moon.

[Myon88]

I think people just don't need crafting EXP as much which is why there's less participation than Firmament. People jumped servers and clogged up Firmament zones just for the construction FATEs, because they gave crafting EXP and there wasn't as many ways to get it back then. Now people don't need EXP as much and just get annoyed by the construction FATEs because they block Red Alerts that give a pile of currency and tool progress.

That's something I've always thought about when it came to how HoH and EO were never really able to capture the same success as PotD.

One of the main reasons is that the entire surrounding game environment was simply different back then. You didn't have allied tribe quests that - from SHB onwards - give you half a level of XP a day. It also serviced the entire 1-60 level range. That's a massive gulf compared to the newer deep dungeons and field ops that only bridge a 10 level gap. Between roulettes and the aforementioned allied quests, 10 levels is 3 or 4 days of casual dailies max.

PvP was not as popular back then, so no half a level from frontline roulette as well (I can't actually recall if it even gave that much XP back then). The qol that allows you to queue and play on different jobs and more easily receive XP on the job you wanted did not exist back then either.

Fun fact, it didn't always use to be the case that your actions and abilities tab displayed everything up to the game's level cap. You only saw what was available to you up to your current level. Running PotD was a popular way to temporarily unlock the full tab and steal those icons for your hotbar, so you could begin setting it up earlier.

You lose a lot of organic participation from the wider community because of stuff like that. As a result they have to stand on their own solely on the merits of their gameplay mechanics and exclusive rewards.

[Gurgeh]

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Also, OP, you know very well at this point that Discord is not a cartel (you can freely join one and be welcomed), and raiders are not "upper class" - the callouts on discord are to help people clear who don't otherwise know what they are doing.

Yes I'll grant you 'Upper class' is controversial and emotive of me. Provocative. But it makes a point doesn't it? It communicates the reality of how at least one of us feels and I would suggest more than one? What do you think Jeeqbit?
But yes it was provocative and there is more than enough negative sentiment swilling around. So I should take that back.

However, your going to argue against cartel?

Seriously? You expect me to risk that? Even though it's contrary to evidence?
We've got prominent, 'influencers' setting just the best example (/sarcasm) to their fanatics that discords are great just 'because' they keep out the wrong people.

Then you've got an entire zeitgeist based on calling new players who are struggle with consistency 'progliars'

You've got logs in every discord.
You've got use of absolute pestilence like that tombstone site that uses logs also, floating around.

oh... And that's just the best of it...

Now... we get onto the worst...
how those very discords are coordinating efforts to sabotage 'snipers' (people who just want to play)
If I was part of a group, contributing to doing that to people I can guarantee you that would be my fun instantly spoiled.

And after everything we have seen in these forums, and I've seen for myself in the 'breifest' of looks on reddit... frankly how dare you suggest (because i know you are not clueless Jeeqbit) that that is not the the stance with which those FT discords are ubiquitous. How dare you suggest that is not exactly what it's happening. We even have a screenshot of it Jeeq.

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Ok I'm really slow to learn, I want to believe the best of people but now i know your just being manipulate too, if asking nicely doesn't work, then you try 'alternative facts'

Honestly, here I am just suprised that I'm surprised yet again. To be blunt I thought you were better than me, but it's have to do mental gymnastics to convince myself I'd try and BS someone that way.

I now just think you're not beyond (real cunning) trolling either. (Not the bombastic stuff Alen does)

If your a discord and your trying to keep people out just because they are not in your discord... That is the best fing description of a 'CARTEL'.

Just look it up Jeeqbit. Just look it up. I'm gonna assume you're not being so insulting as to think I'll accept that as long as I can join the discord, that that's sufficient, and keeping me out of the instance because I've never even heard of their discord or im not in it is now ok. I don't want to know if that's the case.

Fin ell. So disappointed after all those great discussions about Lucky Bancho data.
Maybe everyone just gets pissed off and petty, eventually and that includes you too. If so to be fair I'm amazed you've lasted this long. You had come across as a true saint of infinite patience.

[Gurgeh]

You know all this talk of discords...
And i don't think i have seen 'anyone' post a discord invite on here to one of these 'welcoming' discords.
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So come on someone, actually , more than one person...
Step-up... Let's see those discord invites...
Someone will soon say if they are real or bogus.
(I ain't be checking)
You start it Jeeq.
Start a thread of welcoming FT discords.

[SophiaDL]

You know all this talk of discords...
And i don't think i have seen 'anyone' post a discord invite on here to one of these 'welcoming' discords.
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So come on someone, actually , more than one person...
Step-up... Let's see those discord invites...
Someone will soon say if they are real or bogus.
(I ain't be checking)
You start it Jeeq.
Start a thread of welcoming FT discords.

You arent owed anything, you can do your own research into the "discord cartels" lmao

God forbid people have to be social in an MMORPG.