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  1. #11
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    What did I post was incorrect?

    I am having difficulty deciphering what your chat says. If you obtained the cane without clicking anything then you were probably the only person left in the instance, even if "Not Me" clicked Need or Greed before exiting.
    They were specifically testing your assertion that a non-roll is treated as a pass, which disagreed with what they previously stated. Such a test can only be performed by letting the timer expire, which cant happen if the other people leave. So reading their chat log: Line 1, they loot a chest. Line 2, it asks them to roll. Line 3, the other player in the party helping with the test rolls(we know from context that they pass). Line 4(and 5), after 5 minutes have passed and the timer expires the loot is awarded to them.

    So indeed, the system is treating it as a 4-tiered roll system. Need as tier 1(beats all but a better need roll), Greed as tier 2(youve indicated you want it, you beat anyone who passes or doesnt roll but still lose to any need or a better greed roll), blank as tier 3(you didnt say you want it, you didnt say you didnt want it - so you get it if no one else wants it - one would guess it randomly assigns if no one rolls anything but i havent tested this), and pass as tier 4(you didnt want it, you dont get it).
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  2. #12
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    Rin_Sato's Avatar
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    Rin Sato
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    What did I post was incorrect?

    I am having difficulty deciphering what your chat says. If you obtained the cane without clicking anything then you were probably the only person left in the instance, even if "Not Me" clicked Need or Greed before exiting.
    Wrong. Both players were in the instance. Feel free to go test it. Please test it before continuing to post misinformation.
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    :thinking:

  3. #13
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
    World
    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    What did I post was incorrect?

    I am having difficulty deciphering what your chat says. If you obtained the cane without clicking anything then you were probably the only person left in the instance, even if "Not Me" clicked Need or Greed before exiting.
    Based on the log, NotRin clicked Pass, not Need or Greed.



    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    Not rolling is treated as passed loot. If the timer expires and no one has rolled (including passing) then it's gone.

    If you're the only one in the instance (because everyone else left or you're soloing) then all loot is automatically given to you, unless it has a weekly restriction. In other words, you won't pick up current raid loot if everyone bails before you had a chance to roll, thus locking into an item you might not of wanted that week.
    "No answer" is only treated as Pass in current normal raids and alliance raids because of the weekly restriction.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 06-23-2025 at 05:02 PM.

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