Relic being tomestone step AGAIN is incredibly depressing

[Supersnow845]

For the sake of not panicing, ShB was also the same - first step was 1500 tomes. That relic ended up being MUCH more involved by the time it was complete.

The ShB step of the relic came with gangos before southern front released

This step is actually coming with south horn which is a bigger issue

[AmiableApkallu]

For the sake of not panicing, ShB was also the same - first step was 1500 tomes. That relic ended up being MUCH more involved by the time it was complete.

I'd place my bet on each additional step of the Dawntrail relic weapons being the same as the first: A one-time "grind" followed-by 1500 uncapped tomestones per weapon.

This game has seen a lot of its rough edges sanded off over the years (let's set aside any discussion of whether any of that sanding went a bit too far...), and with DT's 21 combat jobs vs. ARR's 10, and SE's seeming alergy to changing things up too much mid-expansion, I feel like the structure of the first step will be repeated for the future steps.

[Krojack]

actually its hunt trains and s ranks xd

Sure if you want to rush and get all the relics done in a week or two. After that I'm sure you will be complaining about nothing to do in the game.

I got all the EW relics for every job before the next step came out just from doing a few daily roulettes now and then. It gave me something do to by not rushing.

[Gyson]

I assume it'll be like this step every time, one relic grind type activity to unlock the ability to buy the weapons with tomes. I think it's a good middle ground for people who want to get all the weapons vs people who want a grind.

Yes, I don't mind the tomestone "grind".. I just wish the relic content had been added at a point when I was still running daily dungeons for Mathematics and those Heliometry tomestones were flowing in quickly and naturally. Just one of those "would have been nice" things.

[Fawkes]

I can't even think of something that would be better than just tomes with how the content is set up. We're just going to get like 5 CE-spams, aren't we?

Like, Bozja had Skirmishes/CEs, Castrum, DR, and Dalriada. Occult Crescent just has FATEs/CEs. They can't put a relic step in Fork Tower. We don't have a Pazuzu. There's only one more zone coming and it's not until 7.5x and they weren't even initially planning a normal mode for the next tower. I don't think there's even enough camps to chain at for a vitilated aether step. I really don't know how they're going to have the relic be interesting with Occult Crescent being what it is.

[Mercury_Grey]

Sorry bud but we are getting yet another tomestone relic.

If game designer, who was in charge of making quest for relic, had above room temperature IQ, there would be AN OPTION either to grind atmas then exchange for metal -> relics or to just buy metal with tomes.

We literally got tomestone relics again, they did not even think about "what if people got more atmas than needed for first relic" part ....... What do i do with them? Beg SE to hire C++ intern to make a proper repeatable relic quest?

I can't wait for yoshida to be on a high horse on next live letter and troll people with "OC was very well received content".

THey actuallys tated they learned from their mistake of the EW relic and won't make future relics that easy to get. Before people say manderville was the best in slot it wasn't the p12s weapon has better stats then the manderville complete weapon. I used to have both and i didn't even do manderville until i finished DT

[TomsYoungerBro]

Before people say manderville was the best in slot it wasn't the p12s weapon has better stats then the manderville complete weapon. I used to have both and i didn't even do manderville until i finished DT

So confidently wrong

[TeresaFortell]

Sorry bud but we are getting yet another tomestone relic.

If game designer, who was in charge of making quest for relic, had above room temperature IQ, there would be AN OPTION either to grind atmas then exchange for metal -> relics or to just buy metal with tomes.

We literally got tomestone relics again, they did not even think about "what if people got more atmas than needed for first relic" part ....... What do i do with them? Beg SE to hire C++ intern to make a proper repeatable relic quest?

I can't wait for yoshida to be on a high horse on next live letter and troll people with "OC was very well received content".

That's a primary concern regarding farming Demiatmas. There should be an option to trade the extra Demiatmas for the ones you need. Instead, they clog your inventory. Given that Demiatmas are tied to CE and fates, it is unclear why they did not consider this alternative, considering the likely presence of a few extras in hand.

[apa-niwe]

Controversial opinion: casuals don't need to farm all relics.
I think having one set of atmas per weapon would be better for 90% of players. Casuals who want 1-2 cool weapons, ultimate raiders who need a weapon for top and achievement hunters that just want to grind.

If it's too much grind just make the steps shorter. I don't think it matters if you farm 5 atmas per set instead of 6

[XtremePrime]

Controversial opinion: casuals don't need to farm all relics.
I think having one set of atmas per weapon would be better for 90% of players. Casuals who want 1-2 cool weapons, ultimate raiders who need a weapon for top and achievement hunters that just want to grind.

If it's too much grind just make the steps shorter. I don't think it matters if you farm 5 atmas per set instead of 6

Hard disagree, it's either relic or normal raiding for casuals.
Ultimate raiders have no need for the relic since it's worse than the tome weapon.

Having atma be a one time thing is a good thing.