Relic being tomestone step AGAIN is incredibly depressing

[XtremePrime]

Controversial opinion: casuals don't need to farm all relics.
I think having one set of atmas per weapon would be better for 90% of players. Casuals who want 1-2 cool weapons, ultimate raiders who need a weapon for top and achievement hunters that just want to grind.

If it's too much grind just make the steps shorter. I don't think it matters if you farm 5 atmas per set instead of 6

Hard disagree, it's either relic or normal raiding for casuals.
Ultimate raiders have no need for the relic since it's worse than the tome weapon.

Having atma be a one time thing is a good thing.

[Supersnow845]

Hard disagree, it's either relic or normal raiding for casuals.
Ultimate raiders have no need for the relic since it's worse than the tome weapon.

Having atma be a one time thing is a good thing.

But relics are grind achievements first, catchup weapons a distant fourth

Making relic weapons easy to get because they can be used as catchup weapons defeats the purpose of relics when tomestone weapons already exist

[XtremePrime]

But relics are grind achievements first, catchup weapons a distant fourth

Making relic weapons easy to get because they can be used as catchup weapons defeats the purpose of relics when tomestone weapons already exist

Then they need to add non-raid tied tomestone weapons if they want to keep the relic as a prestige thing and give casuals a way to acquire a max level weapon that can do content without needing to collect blades for N-weeks on end.

I also don't agree that phantom weapons will be strictly for the achievement first because this is a huge Eureka smell, and Eureka relic had elemental bonus on the final step, helping with the field op and BA. I expect they'll pull something similar for OC and FT where the relic will complement the gear in making the field op content easier.

[Daralii]

Then they need to add non-raid tied tomestone weapons if they want to keep the relic as a prestige thing and give casuals a way to acquire a max level weapon that can do content without needing to collect blades for N-weeks on end.

Or they could just go back to the old approach to relics, which was mostly grinding lower tier content at your own pace. Having raid tomestone weapons and non-raid tomestone weapons is incredibly redundant and boring.

[Kaurhz]

I also don't agree that phantom weapons will be strictly for the achievement first because this is a huge Eureka smell, and Eureka relic had elemental bonus on the final step, helping with the field op and BA. I expect they'll pull something similar for OC and FT where the relic will complement the gear in making the field op content easier.

Thing is, if field-op is only going to be a one-time step, with all subsequent relics being 1500 tomes per step, then it's going to be kind of redundant anyway.... Eureka had the advantage in that... If you were doing all relics, then you were probably getting a weapon with the elemental stat to make spawning easier, since it was Eureka or nothing... But all subsequent relics being tomestone takes away a massive incentive to even bother staying in there (field-op) long-term.

[Volgia]

Then they need to add non-raid tied tomestone weapons if they want to keep the relic as a prestige thing and give casuals a way to acquire a max level weapon that can do content without needing to collect blades for N-weeks on end.

I also don't agree that phantom weapons will be strictly for the achievement first because this is a huge Eureka smell, and Eureka relic had elemental bonus on the final step, helping with the field op and BA. I expect they'll pull something similar for OC and FT where the relic will complement the gear in making the field op content easier.

Why do you need max level weapons , though? With the 720 and 750/crafted weapons you can already do all the casual content available.

[Brandr]

Tomestones relics are the devs showing off how it COSTS too much to have casual content for us.

Please, look forward for the next Ultimate!