Can I ask why Creative Business Unit 3 are radio silent on the issue of Forked Tower?

[Yoshihara]

I don't understand why someone in the dev team decided that the perfect storm of:
72 man instances
Unable to queue in as a 48 man alliance into an instance
Making the content 48 man content with mechanics that can wipe an entire raid if a random / one player makes a mistake / doesn't communicate you get the idea
Unable to choose an instance to join

Why was this greenlit? Did nobody have the foresight to see what it would cause?
All of this results in, as a lot of people have been complained about already, making the content waste hours of people's time trying to get into the same instance to do this content.

This also elevates people's frustration levels to ridiculous levels, it's an insult to people's time, we haven't received any apology from the dev team, no hotfix to implement at least the capability to queue in as a 6 party alliance. We shouldn't have to game the system by queueing on Dynamis (which is exploiting another problem brushed under the carpet of a dead Datacentre), of which EU doesn't have the luxury to do so as Shadow was removed.

So now we get instances of people getting angry and frustrated at the game after one person makes a mistake and wipes the raid. For all the "FFXIV respects your time just go play other games when you run out of content" memes (which is massive copium by the way), this is the biggest disrespect of everyone's time, and if anything Japanese culture should understand what it means to have wasted everyone's time.

Not only that but you've bred the perfect toxic environment where communities become intolerant due to how much time is invested into trying to get into the content. 47 people feel miserable when one person causes a wipe, and then the 1 person feels even more miserable because they have the eyes of everyone on their back.

You could blame "Toxic Elitism" of the raiders for ganging up on the one guy who made the mistake, you can blame the one guy for making a mistake, but ultimately the people to blame are the devs who somehow didn't foresee this happening with how this system works. For the few people who have managed to get a clear out of this, they've also created thousands of extremely upset, angry, frustrated players who are taking it out on each other. I find it hard to blame any of them, and my ire is directed at the dev team right now.

But what also really gets me is the radio silence from the devs, just nothing, no communication, no acknowledgement of the issue, nothing to let us know that the devs even care anymore.

[Yoshihara]

I don't think I'm speaking for just myself, so I'll use "We" in this context.
When something isn't up to scratch, that can be fixed rather easily (in theory) by just letting us queue as a 6 party alliance into a single instance, AND by reducing the cooldown between runs, we would like some communication from the devs that they're aware of the issue, that they hear us, or know there's something wrong that they can or cannot fix. We want communication, we want to know that the dev team are aware of these glaring issues, we don't want to be gaslit into believing the issue lies with us when the system or content itself is inherently flawed.

In this particular case it's extremely egregious as we're spending 4 hours outside trying to even get into the content, before spending between 5-30 minutes inside the content before Billy does a mechanic wrong and causes everyone to wipe, forcing everyone to wait another 30 minutes (or worse) to attempt the content again. All this time adds up, every single person taking part in this content has their time wasted, I can't stress how hard on how much time has been wasted, of which some people have precious little of.

This has been an ongoing issue with the entirety of Dawntrail so far, and it's broken my faith in the devs, whether it be the MSQ, or how content is engaged with or released. Whenever there is criticism we are met with corporate speak, or told we are asking for too much, or ignored.

Although this is a thread bringing up the issue of Forked Tower, it is ultimately a rant thread questioning why it feels like the devs now avoid their players and do not want to engage with their worries or complaints, and on occasion with the dev team pointing at us as the problem whenever there is discourse.

[Infindox]

Wait until the 20th (when the next LL is) to see if they say anything. If they don't, that's when I'd start getting frustrated (well, more then we already are having FT being like this in the first place).
I'm huffing the copium that they will actually say something because even the Japanese playerbase is extremely confused about it, many of them on their own forums saying they will skip it. They use Discord way less then we do.

[Yoshihara]

Wait until the 20th (when the next LL is) to see if they say anything. If they don't, that's when I'd start getting frustrated (well, more then we already are having FT being like this in the first place).
I'm huffing the copium that they will actually say something because even the Japanese playerbase is extremely confused about it, many of them on their own forums saying they will skip it. They use Discord way less then we do.

I have not been liking their track record with this expansion so far with how they've tackled any of the criticism whether it be the writing, the community experience, or the content or content delivery itself. If this was a one off I'd still be all smiles and brushing it off as a mistake that I could say "Yeah I have faith the devs will address this, they don't need to say anything, and I don't need to say anything". But I don't have that faith anymore, and I do not believe I am at fault for having lost that faith.

[Infindox]

I have not been liking their track record with this expansion so far with how they've tackled any of the criticism whether it be the writing, the community experience, or the content or content delivery itself. If this was a one off I'd still be all smiles and brushing it off as a mistake that I could say "Yeah I have faith the devs will address this, they don't need to say anything, and I don't need to say anything". But I don't have that faith anymore, and I do not believe I am at fault for having lost that faith.

Oh I get it. After patch EW and current DT, I get it.

[Jeeqbit]

After over 10 years of this game, I can confidently tell you, they're always slow about addressing things. The earliest they might as at an emergency patch within weeks. More likely not until 7.3 or North Horn if that.

[Mawlzy]

I sort of assumed it is working as intended?

These are professional game developers. The implications of the design choice in FT would be obvious to people with that background. It may be a nightmare for most players, but "most players" are no longer the target demographic.

[Fawkes]

It's pretty rare for them to fix things. I wouldn't be surprised if Forked Tower stays how it is. Maybe they'll get around to making FATEs scale properly in a few weeks though.

[Astronema]

Having items you have to farm from the tower for the vendor to purchase especially the emote is ridiculous when most of us are never going to get inside. That leaves just random rng to obtain it. Utterly ridiculous.

[Ryaze]

I sort of assumed it is working as intended?

These are professional game developers. The implications of the design choice in FT would be obvious to people with that background. It may be a nightmare for most players, but "most players" are no longer the target demographic.

The same "professional game developers" that had a flaw in their experience distribution system that was taken advantage of back in patch 4.5 with Blue Mage and then six years later was still present that they had to hotfix out for OC? Those professionals?