New Player Etiquette

[Mawlzy]

Because there is very little of interest in trash pulls, even if the dungeon has fun bosses, like I really love the 1st and 2nd bosses of Strayborought for example, getting to those bosses is hardly interesting, so skip past them as fast as possible becomes the norm.

Okay, that's fair. I think the last mobs that were engaging as healer were in Stone Vigil.

[Infindox]

Just a reminder--not all of the tank jobs start as a level 1 tank.

A friend of mine started playing xiv because they loved how Gunbreaker looked, they grabbed it as soon as they could (I think they job skipped on something they had no interest in)
They still went and learned how to tank in general, make big pulls, etc.

[Gokki]

I specifically turned off my crowns and never bother renewing despite being able to simply because, as a mentor, people get distracted by the crown instead of focusing on learning. Collection of thoughts:

1. Lowlvls under 50? Sure, do it slowly, my baby.
2. High lvls above 50, doing Heavensward? Bro, you have plenty of time to learn, keep up. Stop wasting other people's time.
3. I notice a less-skilled player and push them to improve, so i carefully pull more to pressure them into going faster but not too much so we wipe. If i die because i was reckless that's on me, no worries.
4. If a healer is pulling ahead of the tank that's pretty shameful of the tank, pull more, please. See points 1, 2 and 3.
5. DPS need to do more damage when tanks pull properly because if trash takes too long to kill, healer and tank may run out of cooldowns in a W2W. If you don't know how to play the job then find a target dummy and practice, read the tooltips and put 2+2 together, practice in Duty Support. This is problem-solving skills they teach in primary school. Keep up.
6. if you're distracted irl, be it a pet, baby, family or work then don't queue up with randoms, don't waste other people's time.

It's not about elitism, it's about respect of others and not wasting their time. The bar is set quite low, you can even ask for a break if you have to use the bathroom or answer the door. It's not a big deal, but sabotaging a run out of negligence or needless incompetence is disrespectful.


Like i said: if you're learning a new job and ask in chat to go slower because you JUST unlocked Gunbreaker and it's your first tank: it's ok, no worries. Make sure to practice on a target dummy to set your action bars first AND do a Duty Support run to practice BEFORE you match with randoms.

[TaleraRistain]

I specifically turned off my crowns and never bother renewing despite being able to simply because, as a mentor, people get distracted by the crown instead of focusing on learning. Collection of thoughts:

1. Lowlvls under 50? Sure, do it slowly, my baby.
2. High lvls above 50, doing Heavensward? Bro, you have plenty of time to learn, keep up. Stop wasting other people's time.
3. I notice a less-skilled player and push them to improve, so i carefully pull more to pressure them into going faster but not too much so we wipe. If i die because i was reckless that's on me, no worries.
4. If a healer is pulling ahead of the tank that's pretty shameful of the tank, pull more, please. See points 1, 2 and 3.
5. DPS need to do more damage when tanks pull properly because if trash takes too long to kill, healer and tank may run out of cooldowns in a W2W. If you don't know how to play the job then find a target dummy and practice, read the tooltips and put 2+2 together, practice in Duty Support. This is problem-solving skills they teach in primary school. Keep up.
6. if you're distracted irl, be it a pet, baby, family or work then don't queue up with randoms, don't waste other people's time.

It's not about elitism, it's about respect of others and not wasting their time. The bar is set quite low, you can even ask for a break if you have to use the bathroom or answer the door. It's not a big deal, but sabotaging a run out of negligence or needless incompetence is disrespectful.


Like i said: if you're learning a new job and ask in chat to go slower because you JUST unlocked Gunbreaker and it's your first tank: it's ok, no worries. Make sure to practice on a target dummy to set your action bars first AND do a Duty Support run to practice BEFORE you match with randoms.

All of those are incredibly elitist.

"Don't you dare come into my Duty Finder roulette unless you practice on a dummy and run the content in Duty Support first"

How about if you can't handle different levels of experience and playstyles you don't engage with matchmaking Duty Finder and stick to premades?

[Gokki]

All of those are incredibly elitist.

"Don't you dare come into my Duty Finder roulette unless you practice on a dummy and run the content in Duty Support first"

How about if you can't handle different levels of experience and playstyles you don't engage with matchmaking Duty Finder and stick to premades?

You can have any playstyle you want with bots or friends, don't hold other people back on purpose. It's one thing to have some sort of physical disability or be a newbie in Sastasha. I will absolutely wait for you and pull one by one if you're a new player learning. This isn't elitism, it's basic civism. This happens everywhere: driving a car too slow, taking too long at the ATM, strolling across a zebra crossing, stretching your legs over a narrow public corridor. it's just impolite to waste other people's time. These exames are just extensions of the same thing.


I am happy to teach and guide anyone TRULY new and willing to learn. I find such people are never slow, they strive to improve and push themselves, and often thank me for helping them. Purposefully holding others back due to some toxic sense of individuality is something i'm quite alergic to. I apolagize, it is difficult to explain the difference despite being a simple concept.

[MsMisato]

You can have any playstyle you want with bots or friends, don't hold other people back on purpose. It's one thing to have some sort of physical disability or be a newbie in Sastasha. I will absolutely wait for you and pull one by one if you're a new player learning. This isn't elitism, it's basic civism. This happens everywhere: driving a car too slow, taking too long at the ATM, strolling across a zebra crossing, stretching your legs over a narrow public corridor. it's just impolite to waste other people's time. These exames are just extensions of the same thing.


I am happy to teach and guide anyone TRULY new and willing to learn. I find such people are never slow, they strive to improve and push themselves, and often thank me for helping them. Purposefully holding others back due to some toxic sense of individuality is something i'm quite alergic to. I apolagize, it is difficult to explain the difference despite being a simple concept.

your list they were referring was extremely condescending and elitists. You could have simply just said, If you are new to a job or just not familiar enough with something ask to slow down, plain simple. Maybe it will run the dungeon an extra 30 seconds to a minutes. But seriously if you are getting that bent on you may just want to do premade and just queue up with whatever you need filled.

[Shyxx]

I never understood this tanks being uncomfortable with large pulls. If anyone should be uncomfortable it's the healer, the tank just pulls and pops a mit or two the rest is up to the healer (and dps).

[TaleraRistain]

I never understood this tanks being uncomfortable with large pulls. If anyone should be uncomfortable it's the healer, the tank just pulls and pops a mit or two the rest is up to the healer (and dps).

They have to learn what mits to use and when. I mean you don't just dump everything on the first set of things you pull. You learn what to match together with what, like putting Nebula with HoC and then next set a Rampart with Reprisal and maybe an Arm's Length if they're particularly spicy. Also how to effectively use your invuln when pulling so you weave that in as normal mitigation and not just an oh-crap button.

[YovelaLindswood]

Ima be honest. By the time you're almost in ew i'd expect you to know how to play the game. The game is hyper formulaic so if you know one dungeon you know them all. Two packs x2 into a boss with the occasional forced small pull. Watch a guide or something about how to tank but don't waste three peoples time and call them toxic. While their behavior isn't the best either yours is just as bad for refusing to play the game as designed. Not everyone wants to spend 40 minutes in a dungeon. If anything though you were failed by the forced babying of the community that isn't allowed to tell you how to fix those bad habits on threat of report.

[Gwenkatsu]

Ima be honest. By the time you're almost in ew i'd expect you to know how to play the game.

But still there are people that just don't get it.
To the day I remember that Perfect Legend healer in Vanguard i guess. As soon as the dungeon started, they started running and pulled everything. When the tank was done typing "first time", the Perfect Legend had already died gracefully on the next wall.
You would think that with level 100 this guy should have learned the very basic fact not to pull while the tank is not even moving, but no.

Or maybe there is an achievement for the title Perfect Fool that I'm not aware of? In this case I stand corrected