It's not the RNG, its the implementation of the system

[KazuyaKurogane]

Note: You can also get each type of demiatma from each of the 6 DT zones. For me, I never got around to maxing out the FATE levels when DT first released, so I'm just doing that now. Doing exactly what you mentioned - chipping away at the "large" number of FATEs required in each zone while simultaneously picking up the demiatma I need along the way.

Same here..
I went inside OC with two friends, got a few demimateria there (almost 1 of each) but thought it's a pain to keep doing it in OC..
So I did the FATEs in the 6 DT Zones.. Found a group in pf or made one myself, there's always at least one other player who will join you..
And I can level up my FATE levels..

I'm so happy that I'm done with the demimateria, though I still have to max out 4 DT Zones..
Still missing the ShB Zones too xD


For me personally the best relic in terms of steps is still the lvl 60 Heavensward Relic..
Every step was different..
Yeah, the first step is FATE Farming, but even that isn't such a pain compared to the recent stuff..

My personal favorite for the lvl 60 relic is the one where you have to feed your weapon and get to decide on the substats..
To get the mats you had so many options and I did those with my crafter.. getting crafter tokens and turning them in into special letters you need to get the mats..

I wasn't a fan of Eureka.. Still grinded one relic till the end..
Bozja was okayish because you didn't have to grind in there to get the weapon..
But the one step where you can do Delubrum (normal) to get the special item or going into palace of the dead where you maybe get it by luck was such a no go for me..
Even there I only finished one Relic (let's not talk about the end design, it's just awful) and I actually wanna get the others too..
I'm a collector.. But it's such a huge pain to do the Delubrum runs now.. Cause you can't queue for it like you usually do, you have to wait for a pf group or make one yourself..

[RenegadeInferno]

But it's such a huge pain to do the Delubrum runs now.. Cause you can't queue for it like you usually do, you have to wait for a pf group or make one yourself..

It's not that bad on Chaos/Light to get an 8-man to fill in a decent time.
It's the mandatory 10 minute queue time that you have to go through each time you want to do the thing.

That's the bit they need to remove.

"Got a full party? Cool, in you go."

This is the mystery to me, why they keep this mandatory time.
All it takes is 1 person to DC or get tired or "insert reason" and you're back to waiting 10mins all over again.

They should make this stuff easier to access after it's not current, not harder.