Harassment of players (LGBT)

[Annabellechu]

Things like this is why it's very tiring to have conversation with sensitive topic. You all love to turn everything into extreme take and accusation just because someone else have their own opinion. How come saying "I'm not comfortable with people openly talking about their sexuality" is the same as them misgendering and harrassing people?

At this point both (extreme) sides are annoying.

Also it's common decency to not (e)RP in public, you know.

Well.. someone said flauting your gender publicly, gender is well... probably about gendering right and not harassing :shrug:

[YovelaLindswood]

What example do you want exactly ? Everything was said in Dynn's post

Also how can I be anti gay when I am gay ? Lmao

Just ignore him. The us vs them mentality isn't just in the straight community. My gay friends constantly complain about how if they don't fit the mold of an acceptable gay they get shunned. Trust me there's nothing you can do to change their minds when all they see is hate. Just do what my friends do and surround yourself with friends who care about you and just don't bother with the toxic side of the community.

[SophiaDL]

Just ignore him. The us vs them mentality isn't just in the straight community. My gay friends constantly complain about how if they don't fit the mold of an acceptable gay they get shunned. Trust me there's nothing you can do to change their minds when all they see is hate. Just do what my friends do and surround yourself with friends who care about you and just don't bother with the toxic side of the community.

Oh believe me I know very well, I am gay myself and I try and stay as far as possible from that ""community"" lol. If you dont agree with them on every single topic, you get called a bigot and homophobic (I actually did get called that on another thread, yet I am quite literally gay...)

[0blivion]

Listen, I dunno what the bunnygirls in Crystarium were RPing about, but the least I can do is not bother them if it's not explicit lol. And if someone has pronouns in bio/discord username/adventurer's plate/literally says them in chat, they should be respected. It ain't hard.

[Kozh]

QUOTE=Annabellechu;6712406]Explain to me why "flaunting" your gender is degeneracy? It has nothing to do with sexual context. Obviously if you keep mentioning it like it's your personality, well that's a different story but what's wrong about let's say, mentioning your gender on your plate?[/QUOTE]

Listen, I dunno what the bunnygirls in Crystarium were RPing about, but the least I can do is not bother them if it's not explicit lol. And if someone has pronouns in bio/discord username/adventurer's plate/literally says them in chat, they should be respected. It ain't hard.

See? This is what I meant. As far as I know, nobody have mentioned "gender on bio/adventurer's plate" nor that that's the cause of OP's harassment. You guys are the one who kump into conclusion and make this an issue.
If someone is going as far as checking your plate, then harrass you for your sexuality, then yeah it's valid to report them. But we ain't talking about that.

This shouldn't be hard to understand.

[Granyala]

I miss the old day where we all just login to play a game and have fun. good old days. dang I am already that old to make those comments holy cow ;-;

You must be like ... ANCIENT.

I mean people-drama was always existent in multiplayer games.
Anonymity tends to show how we are greedy, little, self absorbed humans.

I do not exempt myself from this. I am sure I have caused drama as well in the last 2 decades of playing online, be it willingly or unwillingly. Sometimes just uttering a non-mainstream opinion is enough to put gasoline into a sweltering fire. :'D

[Lorika]

I was with the person who last got banned, in voice chat. I know what they said in say. Yes they said a naughty word in an adult game, but why him specifically targeted and not others who also said naughty words, including me?

Sorry but FFXIV is rated T in US, Pegi 16 in Europe (which is highest rating compared to others), 12 USK and CERO C.
So no, it's not an adult game.

Sexual oriented naughty word in the public chat is bannable.

So, yup, your friend aren't victims in this case. they probably offended a kid or a father/mother plaiing with it kid (and i know some) and got a deserved ban.

[zarahleo]

This is FFXIV, the sooner you learn to never speak in any public chat, the longer your account will last.

[VeyaAkemi]

Prolly violated FFXIV rule #1: do not ever talk using the ingame chat. Everything can be used against you by twisting the PoV. This is usually not a problem because JP players don't talk in MMOs anyways and you should adopt that behavior.

This is FFXIV, the sooner you learn to never speak in any public chat, the longer your account will last.

Stuff like this always reads like such a gargantuan self-report to me, I openly talk in public chats in this game constantly, for years, and I have never had any issue, just what are you saying, or fear saying, that could be reportable? it's legitimately not hard to never direct insults at anyone and still be social.

[Granyala]

Stuff like this always reads like such a gargantuan self-report to me, I openly talk in public chats in this game constantly, for years, and I have never had any issue, just what are you saying, or fear saying, that could be reportable? it's legitimately not hard to never direct insults at anyone and still be social.

Same.
I mean, I am as direct as they come, I rant about stuff I don't like, even called the DEVs incompetent a few times when questionable design decisions (like the lack of OC Fate scaling due to them herding everyone into the same spot of the map) made my blood boil and never heard from a GM.

Insulting other people is a no-no for me, even if they may be competition or enemies (PvP), ultimately they are fellow gamers ans should be treated with respect (or ignored if trolls).