Phantom Jobs are a step in the right direction but need iteration.

[MitsukiKimura]

I personally think outside of them being easy to use, it is extremely boring and uninspiring to have the phantom jobs currently as it is. There is no experimentation or change of pace as with the logograms of Eureka or Bozja that made them unique and fun to use. It seems they are afraid of things getting too powerful and have decided to tune down the system as a whole. What they should of done is improve the system they currently had and made it better but instead we got this system which feels kind of barebones.

[RaionKansen]

I personally think outside of them being easy to use, it is extremely boring and uninspiring to have the phantom jobs currently as it is. There is no experimentation or change of pace as with the logograms of Eureka or Bozja that made them unique and fun to use. It seems they are afraid of things getting too powerful and have decided to tune down the system as a whole. What they should of done is improve the system they currently had and made it better but instead we got this system which feels kind of barebones.

Man people really have rose-tinted glasses with Eureka and Bozja.
None of the actions were interesting. It was just passives or buffs to do silly damage, which is pretty much what phantom jobs are. There were some niche actions in Eureka that you used to level grind, but that's it.

[fulminating]

Man people really have rose-tinted glasses with Eureka and Bozja.
None of the actions were interesting. It was just passives or buffs to do silly damage, which is pretty much what phantom jobs are. There were some niche actions in Eureka that you used to level grind, but that's it.

The silly damage is the carrot, the stick is breakdancing and not hitting the boss or using your dashes as a gauge builder or using your mitigations on raidwides and praying that you don’t snag aggro or that the other 3 healers in your party who instantly activated an essence aren’t also all profane and so on. It’s about how the older iterations interacted with the kit and how insular the phantom subjobs are by comparison.

[MitsukiKimura]

Man people really have rose-tinted glasses with Eureka and Bozja.
None of the actions were interesting. It was just passives or buffs to do silly damage, which is pretty much what phantom jobs are. There were some niche actions in Eureka that you used to level grind, but that's it.

Just silly damage? Far from it. Why don't you step into Bozja and take a look at the lost actions one more time.

[Arohk]

Man people really have rose-tinted glasses with Eureka and Bozja.
None of the actions were interesting. It was just passives or buffs to do silly damage, which is pretty much what phantom jobs are. There were some niche actions in Eureka that you used to level grind, but that's it.

I loved how you could stack buffs and win a duel in 5 seconds with Flare Star.

[MitsukiKimura]

I loved how you could stack buffs and win a duel in 5 seconds with Flare Star.

Swift with Impetus absolutely one of my favorites. Whole party running manderville speeds