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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    They desperately need to focus on story and world building.
    To me, DT went down the drain when I crossed that huge bridge, built by the giants of eld when they invaded the northern continent, only to find their mysterious doom. And what did I run into? The worst wild west scenario ever conveived. Cowboys duking it out the old fashioned way - with rubber bullets. Then a sci fi mega city, flying motorcycles, robot soldiers with laser guns, wrestling fights, and a copy pasta moon base that looks like they downloaded some cheap grafic set from the internet. What the hell were they smoking?
    Tbf, the expac starts somewhat ok, it felt like they were aiming for a more light hearted approach compared to the emo show that EW was. But the moment you cross the bridge it’s just getting weird.

    It reminded me of FF8 so much which I also hated for that specific reason where the game world loses all integrity towards the middle of the game, but for that game there’s at least a theory that the main character really died and everything after that point is a fever dream or illusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandraxx View Post
    But the moment you cross the bridge it’s just getting weird.
    Yup and I loved every bit of it. Even if the story has a few plot holes.
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    I think they could make adjustments to the story in response to feedback. But without altering the actual plot. Just things that people have pointed out like Wuk Lamat being afraid of heights then jumping from great heights without issue, not repeating things as much, moving some dialogue from Wuk Lamat to the scions who understand the subject better, adjusting the part of the track that Smile starts at (if it started from the beginning it would be less obnoxious, but currently it starts midway through and blasts your speakers), more solo duties for things like cooking, the train part and Wuk Lamat winning the Alpaca. Send in a few more scions into Living Memory. Just stuff people have pointed out a lot.

    They can't really reverse the story. Some people did not like the first half of the story, and some people did not like the second half, so not everyone's going to universally agree with eachother on which half of it was a problem.

    I think another problem with it was that, according to interviews, it was basically a story about AI, how we will begin to make AI versions of ourselves (people are already) and then run out of earth resources to power all the past AI versions of ourselves. Which we are seeing play out with heavy investment in nuclear power for AI and companies like Google/YouTube frantically trying to delete the accounts of inactive/deceased users to help keep disk space sustainable. The fact this was the inspiration for the story but that it wasn't entirely obvious is maybe a problem, because instead of understanding the "point" of the story, a lot of people are wondering what it was all about.

    Really another thing that would probably help people get through the MSQ at a higher rate is having characters voice act while following you around like many single player games do, as opposed to having to enter a cutscene.
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    One commonality in threads over the past few months is the question: "Who is this content for?"

    It suggests SE does not understand its own player base. There is no simple fix to this, but a well-designed, comprehensive player survey would allow SE to gain a much better idea of what players want, rather than their current practice of asking a half dozen streamers.

    This should be common practice in any subscription-based product, particularly when the evidence mounts that the studio is completely out of touch with the desires of its subscribers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    One commonality in threads over the past few months is the question: "Who is this content for?"
    Only speaking for myself, but with respect to my confusion about what's been happening I think I've just been your average idiot. The devs are not stupid people. There are quite lot of them (even if they think they are just this small indie outfit with no resources), and there is a lot of experience.

    They know what they are doing.

    There is something weird going on. But it's not accidental.
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    Calling it now, the liveletter will be the same formula, but they will also plug like.... two, no three different merch collabs.

    This game is spiritually dead, we will see more game references, ff references and gundam forcefully rammed into the game at the expense of the worldbuilding, the story and whenever the writers can't solve something by READING THEIR OWN LORE, they will crutch it with dynamis or Sharlayan.

    Thats the formula right now. Mixed with horrible anime humour and dialogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    for me it would be rather simple and it's Dawntrail story like nuke it and remake it I know the writers can do better and have the idea.
    I want the community to just move on at this point lol. It's almost over anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    I want the community to just move on at this point lol. It's almost over anyways.
    well most people including myself think 8.0 will be the last and well if 14 dies I don't bother with a other MMOs not gonna lie don't have the time for a new one x)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    well most people including myself think 8.0 will be the last and well if 14 dies I don't bother with a other MMOs not gonna lie don't have the time for a new one x)
    That's pretty fine imo. I want FFXIV to be my final MMO as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    That's pretty fine imo. I want FFXIV to be my final MMO as well.
    same like ya I aren't that old but you know I don't wanna give more time to a other MMO like I don't know I feel to old to redo everything. I am also sure that alot think like me I have put almost a full year online since shb I don't feel I could do that Toa other game over all. or just finding a game I will love as much as I love 14
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