Dawntrail Doomposting Megathread

[Kozh]

Exactly. There are 5 possible messages you see in shout. Those are.

1: lfg
2: lfg gold farm
3: lfg ce
4: rez pls (coordinates)
5: omw

That's it. That's the extent of social interaction in OC. If you're lucky, the people in your CE farming party say hi and then tyfp when they leave. That's it.

If you play in JP, then it's just 3 and 4 XD

[Kozh]

My only hope is we are done with Wuk Lamat after 7.3 as 7.4 and 7.5 pivot to 8.0. Honestly, get me out of the New World altogether, the zones are just big, empty and barren.

Only for 8.0 to be "Dawntrail, but Australia" lol (since next on the list is Meracydia)

[DynnDiablos]

Only for 8.0 to be "Dawntrail, but Australia" lol (since next on the list is Meracydia)

I believe it's going to be another shard to be honest. It seems they are setting us up for a Shadowbringers 2.0. I know Yoshi P. also made mention of another winter-themed expansion like Heavensward was a desire. Now whether that comes to fruition, who knows?

[Kozh]

I believe it's going to be another shard to be honest. It seems they are setting us up for a Shadowbringers 2.0. I know Yoshi P. also made mention of another winter-themed expansion like Heavensward was a desire. Now whether that comes to fruition, who knows?

..... why do I feel like they are trying to bait us with nostalgia (considering shb and Hw are like, top 2) after the sh*tshow that is Dawntrail.

Honestly though, I prefer if we go to ilsabard first. Kinda tired of other shard nonsense.

[Kozh]

And my reason for putting this example was because a lot of people were saying everyone in the game was equally as unhappy about the game as on these forums. Yet, not only do I not see that in the PUGs I join on a very regular basis, but I don't even hardly see it in a large field zone with a large amount of players contributing their thoughts.

No offense, but most people won't have genuine lengthy discussion/criticim *inside* the game with strangers. Especially knowing this community reputation. Plus even if they do, they will most likely do it in private chat, which you won't be aware of. You may think you met lost of people, but it's probably just a very thiny fraction, at least not enough to draw conclusion that people who looks like having fun is actually happy with the game's state.

I mean, for example, I've been sh*t talking the game in here (forum), but if you saw me in OC messing around and goofing with other players, you would've thought I am having fun because of the game, when in reality it's because of the social interaction.

[Kaurhz]

No offense, but most people won't have genuine lengthy discussion/criticim *inside* the game with strangers. Especially knowing this community reputation. Plus even if they do, they will most likely do it in private chat, which you won't be aware of. You may think you met lost of people, but it's probably just a very thiny fraction, at least not enough to draw conclusion that people who looks like having fun is actually happy with the game's state.

I mean, for example, I've been sh*t talking the game in here (forum), but if you saw me in OC messing around and goofing with other players, you would've thought I am having fun because of the game, when in reality it's because of the social interaction.

I am the exact same to be honest.

Writing in-game doesn't exactly lend itself to productive or in-depth conversation on how good or how bad the game is beyond "I don't like it", or "I like it", or other vague remarks to that effect, and I am generally not one for making vague remarks where people are just trying to play the game, or have light-hearted discussion.

Like, not even in a closed space like FC chat am I going to do that... So, people will just naturally assume that I am just enjoying myself, whether that's by virtue of playing the game, or by virtue of not complaining about it, when realistically the opposite is true.

e.g., if a free trial player in Eureka is going to take me that they aren't upgrading because they're afraid of becoming addicted and not spending as much time on their studies... The last thing I am going to remark with is "Nothing to be excited about, game doesn't really get much better", or "Lol, you won't miss much after Shadowbringers"

[Voidmage]

We had a lot of new fun CEs added (which are individually as much work as a dungeon/raid boss) and a raid. Not to mention the MSQ in 7.2, an extreme and 4 raids. We also had various stories such as Hildibrand and the beast tribe. And cosmic if you are into that.

That's a lot for a developer to make. If you actually think that is all "not much", then you're just gonna have to accept that in order to get the amount of content you want, you'll need to play other games. Alternatively, you can repeat said content and do the grinds. Either way works.

While it’s often used as a meme, they aren’t just some Indi devs.
SE is one of the biggest video game developers and FF14 is more or less in the top three of MMO’s and direct rival to WoW.
Hildibrand and OC were also something we almost waited a year for.
Even the most positive voices in the community point out that if you weren’t a raider you were waiting extremely long to get something.
There is a reason you saw so many positive voices regarding OC despite its obvious weaknesses (I also have fun there still) or people being excited when cosmic arrived. Because all the nonraiders were seriously starved for content.

You really are the only one who thinks fates and Beasttribes are enough content, sorry for sounding rude.
And at the start of 7.2 we even only really had the MSQ!

We can talk about that the devs for this game are probably held low or are too small and I would agree with that but I think pity is the wrong thing and just gives an excuse for SE to not give these devs more.
SE is a huge company and it’s Yoshida’s job to get the funds and manpower from them.

[AvoSturmfaust]

While it’s often used as a meme, they aren’t just some Indi devs.
SE is one of the biggest video game developers and FF14 is more or less in the top three of MMO’s and direct rival to WoW.
Hildibrand and OC were also something we almost waited a year for.
Even the most positive voices in the community point out that if you weren’t a raider you were waiting extremely long to get something.
There is a reason you saw so many positive voices regarding OC despite its obvious weaknesses (I also have fun there still) or people being excited when cosmic arrived. Because all the nonraiders were seriously starved for content.

You really are the only one who thinks fates and Beasttribes are enough content, sorry for sounding rude.
And at the start of 7.2 we even only really had the MSQ!

We can talk about that the devs for this game are probably held low or are too small and I would agree with that but I think pity is the wrong thing and just gives an excuse for SE to not give these devs more.
SE is a huge company and it’s Yoshida’s job to get the funds and manpower from them.

And how many "good" games had square in the last years? dont get me wrong i get your point but square is anything but not a big video game developer anymore, and tbh got the feeling even if you still would call square "big" that there only around maximal 10 people are working on the game (if you remove music and stuff like that) so only gameplaywise

[DynnDiablos]

And how many "good" games had square in the last years? dont get me wrong i get your point but square is anything but not a big video game developer anymore, and tbh got the feeling even if you still would call square "big" that there only around maximal 10 people are working on the game (if you remove music and stuff like that) so only gameplaywise

FF16 - critically acclaimed (beloved by many FF fans, hated by a vocal minority)
FF7 Rebirth - critically acclaimed (universally beloved)

[Daralii]

FF16 - critically acclaimed (beloved by many FF fans, hated by a vocal minority)
FF7 Rebirth - critically acclaimed (universally beloved)

Critical reception is largely irrelevant when both undersold according to the CEO. You can blame unrealistic expectations if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the majority of Square's releases are self-admitted failures and they're depending on the MMOs to remain profitable.