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    SkankyRoe's Avatar
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    Cinnamon Whisky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonemoose View Post
    You haven't explained how this impacts you or anybody else though. Can you explain particularly how a few dozen idling alts materially impacts "congestion", and how this is causative of detriment to player experience?
    Well the way the congestion stuff has always been presented is for it to be influenced by the amount of non-native players in any particular world/DC, more or less that there's a cap on the number of visitors allowed at any given time. Hence why Aether tends to be completely inaccessible to outsiders during peak hours like afternoons/evenings. 20-60 alts from outside would most certainly be affecting it then in that case. But Daralii mentioned that not being the case, and if so then I agree, nothing really should be done about these guys no matter how annoying they are or aren't to anyone.
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    Garu Dyne
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    At this point, this is not "some guy existing".

    But essentially, it is negatively affecting new player experience. The people who never have to engage with it, whatever. You don't go to Limsa or hear about it. But literally every day or sometimes every few hours they have to see it or engage with it. It's a public nuisance and it seems they can be removed/banned off the basis of him using bots to level these, so that is what has to be reported to the Special Task Force.
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    Laura Hallowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeopower6 View Post

    At this point, this is not "some guy existing".

    But essentially, it is negatively affecting new player experience. The people who never have to engage with it, whatever. You don't go to Limsa or hear about it. But literally every day or sometimes every few hours they have to see it or engage with it. It's a public nuisance and it seems they can be removed/banned off the basis of him using bots to level these, so that is what has to be reported to the Special Task Force.
    If you genuinely bother with blocking this many of them, you honestly must be really bored.
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    Rinoa_353's Avatar
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    Minaa Mihgo
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    Seraph
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    If you genuinely bother with blocking this many of them, you honestly must be really bored.
    I blacklisted them because they cause unnecessary drain on my computer that slows to a crawl when there are too many people in a given area. S rank hunts are one thing because it's all genuine players there to kill it but this is completely unnecessary and a waste of resources that directly impacts the performance of my computer. Soon I won't have space to blacklist them all because of the small 200 limit when there are 157 of them already blocked and I won't have space to block people that harass and stalk me. Not to mention they are an eye sore too.
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    Last edited by Rinoa_353; 06-17-2025 at 05:15 AM.
    Meow Mansion - Rinoa's personal mansion located in Exodus LB W28 P28

    Mihgo Manor - Minaa's personal mansion located in Seraph Shiro W14 P60

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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinoa_353 View Post
    I blacklisted them because they cause unnecessary drain on my computer that slows to a crawl when there are too many people in a given area. S rank hunts are one thing because it's all genuine players there to kill it but this is completely unnecessary and a waste of resources that directly impacts the performance of my computer. Soon I won't have space to blacklist them all because of the small 200 limit when there are 157 of them already blocked and I won't have space to block people that harass and stalk me. Not to mention they are an eye sore too.
    hmmm im looking at that first pic and on my server it's way busier around the aetheryte, so I'm not seeing what the problem is.
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    Minaa Mihgo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    hmmm im looking at that first pic and on my server it's way busier around the aetheryte, so I'm not seeing what the problem is.
    I don't have your PC, they caused my PC to drop to 15 FPS and that's at 720p on my RoG Ally Z1E just to troll.
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    Meow Mansion - Rinoa's personal mansion located in Exodus LB W28 P28

    Mihgo Manor - Minaa's personal mansion located in Seraph Shiro W14 P60

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    Eveanna Manolin
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkankyRoe View Post
    Yes, it's not like I'm unable to get onto Faerie most afternoons/evenings because of it, right? My personal experiences are totally not real.

    Yet it was enough worth the time that you felt the need to respond indirectly.

    Says the person complaining about other people complaining.

    If you'd like to actually discuss or debate the topic that's cool, but if you're just gonna talk shit about me to other people like this then you can kindly fuck off.
    You're welcome to substantiate your argument but if you'd rather crash out go right ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonemoose View Post
    You're welcome to substantiate your argument but if you'd rather crash out go right ahead.
    No point in crashing out if you're willing to actually discuss things. I appreciate this response from you.
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    Eveanna Manolin
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeopower6 View Post

    At this point, this is not "some guy existing".

    But essentially, it is negatively affecting new player experience. The people who never have to engage with it, whatever. You don't go to Limsa or hear about it. But literally every day or sometimes every few hours they have to see it or engage with it. It's a public nuisance and it seems they can be removed/banned off the basis of him using bots to level these, so that is what has to be reported to the Special Task Force.
    So where is the line for what is a public nuisance? They aren't blocking access to anything, its just a minor eyesore for people passing through the Aetheryte plaza. If every minor eyesore or trivial inconvenience can be considered a public nuisance, this isn't an MMO - it's a theme park curated by and for HOA Karens.

    If you're going to accuse them of botting to level them I hope you've got evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkankyRoe View Post
    No point in crashing out if you're willing to actually discuss things. I appreciate this response from you.
    I have no beef with you personally. Just the idea/argument that idling characters have any material impact on congestion, causing a negative impact on player experiences. The "congestion" "feature" was added after Endwalker's launch because the decades old infrastructure melts into cascading failures when too many people try to log on at once. The "congestion queues" are largely fake anyway - what's really happening is they process logins in pulses so it's less of a position in a queue and more of an arbitrary timer.
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