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    zeopower6's Avatar
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    Garu Dyne
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100

    Free trial accounts being used to obstruct zones by one guy (Weeaboo Police/CIA)

    Been trying to talk to the GMs about this and they say to use blacklist but quite literally this guy makes like 12-20+ more every day and some people's blacklists are about... 120-130+ slots full of just HIM.



    Can something be done about this? Because it is one thing if its like 2-3 but it is getting out of hand at this point and it's pretty much been happening for years now on a bunch of different servers but it just depends on if you're unlucky enough to be chosen by this one guy making dozens of alts.
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    Easley Lighthalzen
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    Adamantoise
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    Is there a rule against running multiple clients/characters?
    They're not breaking any rules as far as rules are concerned.
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    Krann Starwarden
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    Zodiark
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by zeopower6 View Post
    Been trying to talk to the GMs about this and they say to use blacklist but quite literally this guy makes like 12-20+ more every day and some people's blacklists are about... 120-130+ slots full of just HIM.



    Can something be done about this? Because it is one thing if its like 2-3 but it is getting out of hand at this point and it's pretty much been happening for years now on a bunch of different servers but it just depends on if you're unlucky enough to be chosen by this one guy making dozens of alts.
    Why is this happening?

    Short answer:
    Attention seeking

    Long answer:
    To answer this question, you must ask several. Only then you will arrive at the results and gain a deeper understanding of the situation itself and why it continues.
    • Is it breaking any rules or the ToS?: The answer as stated by tsuchii in a prior reply is no. To my knowledge having multiple characters is not breaking anything so the devs and GMs can do nothing about them for simply existing.
    • Do we have physics in this game? The answer to this question is also no. Your character does not obstruct the movement of other players and from what can be seen, these characters are standing in the city but not deliberately obstructing a certain NPC with malicious intentions.
    • Is there any monetary value received by the player?: The answer is no. Unlike bots who stand to gain from breaking the ToS and harming other players. This person is simply standing in a city, not obstructing any NPC or progression, nor is doing anything noteworthy aside from standing and afking.
    • What's the purpose of the act? By deducing from the other answers. We can conclude that the purpose of this action is purely driven by sentimental value, most likely an attention seeking behaviour.

    The answer leads to another question. How can we deal with it then? Simple! If the community stopped giving him attention, and pretended he doesn't exist, then he'd likely cease doing it. Even a negative attention (complaining) is still considered an attention that some people want to thrive on, and by cutting that they'd have no reason to continue doing so.
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    JuicyHeals's Avatar
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    Unknown Hobo
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I mean hes not really doing any thing besides standing there yea?
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    SkankyRoe's Avatar
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    Cinnamon Whisky
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JuicyHeals View Post
    I mean hes not really doing any thing besides standing there yea?
    I'd say holding 20-60 player spots hostage in an era of "congestion" is a problem.
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    Anonemoose's Avatar
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    Eveanna Manolin
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SkankyRoe View Post
    I'd say holding 20-60 player spots hostage in an era of "congestion" is a problem.
    How does this impact you personally? It's not even your DC and nobody actually on Leviathan has had any complaints about it impacting their ability to phase in and out of Limsa.
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    Cinnamon Whisky
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonemoose View Post
    How does this impact you personally? It's not even your DC and nobody actually on Leviathan has had any complaints about it impacting their ability to phase in and out of Limsa.
    I never said it impacted me personally. But the current "congestion" situation does impact me personally, and their presence in mass numbers like this very much does affect that situation. Whether or not you or anyone else "actually on Leviathan" have seen any complaints about it is irrelevant, especially since they aren't restricted to just Leviathan.
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SkankyRoe View Post
    I never said it impacted me personally. But the current "congestion" situation does impact me personally, and their presence in mass numbers like this very much does affect that situation. Whether or not you or anyone else "actually on Leviathan" have seen any complaints about it is irrelevant, especially since they aren't restricted to just Leviathan.
    The "congestion" has nothing to do with people sitting ingame. It stems from the fact that the login server can only handle a very small number of concurrent requests, and it's so slow that it wouldn't surprise me if the hardware's 20+ years old.
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    Laura Hallowheart
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    Marilith
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SkankyRoe View Post
    I'd say holding 20-60 player spots hostage in an era of "congestion" is a problem.
    """congestion""" lmao
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    Eveanna Manolin
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    """congestion""" lmao
    I know right? Imagine thinking the congestion is real. I was going to respond to that part of his post but figured it wasn't worth the time, he just wants something to complain about.
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