Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
Try again, ShB didn't have stupidly low rng for their fate drops. They were guaranteed drops, but nice seeing that the fallacy strawman that "people are mad because it's a grind" is still going strong I see.
Could you explain how a 20% drop chance from CEs is 'Stupidly low RNG' as you put it? Especially when CEs never stop spawning every 2-3 minutes?

Perhaps you might have forgotten or simply didn't experience it at the time, but ShB relics back in the day asked you to repeat the grind process from scratch. Let's compare ShB and DT relics first steps.


ShB Relics Step 1:

Collect 20 Yellow memories, 20 blue memories, and 20 red memories. A total of 60 per weapon that can either drop from Bozja FATEs, CEs, or from specific HW zones, depending on the color.


DT Relics Step 1:

Collect three pieces of each six demiatmas. A total of 18 demiatmas that can either drop from OC Fates, CEs, or from specific DT zones, depending on the color. A process that is required to be done ONCE, and then you can just get as many Step 1 relic weapons as you like by spending tomestones.


Even if the drop rates are officially much lower than their ShB or any prior expansion counterparts. The point stands that DT only requires you to do it ONCE while ShB and prior asked you to repeat the grind process for each weapon you wish to obtain.

In conclusion, as someone who did ShB relics live when they first came out years ago, and have just finished taking my time to complete DT grind. DT grind is much more job-friendly, and it is a good direction that respects and encourages players to have multiple jobs, all while still being a grindy process as relics used to be prior to EW.