Why make Priority weapons when the system already does a lot?

[Jeronlmo]

I cant really speak for every server... but most of the weapons on mine are worth about the same, so any weapon... is equal to any other weapon, most groups dont set anything, if it drops to you, its yours. You simply sell the weapons you dont want, and buy the ones you want, theres no risk... you get any weapon no matter what drops.

[MrKupo]

Because people like to help each other. It's an agreement that if someone gets a weapon you want, they agree to give you that weapon as long as you agree to do the same for them. It raises the chances of you getting the weapon you want, as long as everyone in the party agrees.

[Norack]

Because people like to help each other. It's an agreement that if someone gets a weapon you want, they agree to give you that weapon as long as you agree to do the same for them. It raises the chances of you getting the weapon you want, as long as everyone in the party agrees.

I understand that, what I am asking is why do ppl wanna do this when less than like half of FFXIV players are trustworthy.

[Churchill]

So you did 27 runs where people were trustworthy and 1 where they weren't?

Did I summarize the OP correctly?

[Vingtdeux]

The God of Spacebars punished you !

[Norack]

So you did 27 runs where people were trustworthy and 1 where they weren't?

Did I summarize the OP correctly?

yes you did. And that is the only thing I have ever done in FFXIV ever was those 28 runs on skirmish. Ninja'ng happens constantly im just curious why ppl put up with it and dont just let ppl take what weapon drops to you. sure you might not get the weapon you want that way but if a weapon drops to you atleast you will get a weapon its alot more fair, and whats the percentage of a weapon droping on you as opposed to the weapon you want dropping on you? The point im trying to make is it will be alot safer to just let the system do it and take what the system gives you. If you are with LS mates and ppl you can actually trust than sure do priority but PUG's should start doing the "if the system drops a weapon to you its yours idgaf if you can use it or not its yours." That way atleast you will get a weapon.

[Shura]

Ninja'ng happens constantly im just curious why ppl put up with it and dont just let ppl take what weapon drops to you. sure you might not get the weapon you want that way but if a weapon drops to you atleast you will get a weapon its alot more fair

Skirmish is a relatively new thing, where as pug groups have been happening for months, mainly dungeon groups. Take AV/CC for example, drops are very rare so its simply easier to decide priority on items before you enter. It would be annoying if you do dungeons for weeks and finally get your item to drop but it gets auto distributed to a mage who can't use it. The chance of getting darklight is super rare as it is, expecting the item u need to directly drop to u in order to get it just adds to the headache so it was easier for pug groups to set priority first.

Skirmish weapons can be traded but its still a headache to go in there wanting a specific weapon but u got to keep doing it till it drops to u, even when people who can't use it are getting it. On my Server not all weapons sell at the same price and some are hardly ever up for sale so its easier to do priority loot then attempt to get it through auto distribution.

This game has always had a crappy loot system, got to make do with whats there, and the best way is to have loot priority set before hand and use the /random feature when there are multiple ppl after the same thing. Lets hope for a better loot system in 2.0 since the current one is beyond trash.

[tymora]

What we need is a player rating site for all the douches and asses.
Perhaps people will watch what they do then...or not...heh

[Quatre]

When something is trad-able is when whoever gets it should keep it.


Only reason I even do skirmish is because i'm bored and want $$$

[yoshikwalla]

Whenever I start a group (and I do a lot) I ask, "What weapons are you looking for and what is the weapon you need the most?" Then I write everyone's name down and what weapon they called. Whatever weapons aren't on the list (say, everyone wants every weapon but the staff and bow) then whoever gets it keeps it. Its about setting rules and seeing if people agree to follow them. If not, change it around and ask for suggestions.

If you join a group and need a weapon, don't be afraid to say "I need the -insert weapon type- from this dungeon" and make sure everyone knows. Unless everyone agrees on some rules and guidelines for the runs, your group isn't obligated to agree and follow what you said, but if your opinion is out there you might get it even if someone else gets the drop. (i.e. "Hey, I already have these claws, have my drop since you said you need it")

Also, don't be afraid to suggest a priority rule. If no one wants to then they don't have to but it doesn't hurt to suggest it. Don't just say it like you own the place but suggest it.

You just have to remember that you're not in charge. As a party leader you just make the team and suggest a way of doing things to the group. Mostly, it's about being flexible and open-minded. As a party member you have the right to suggest ideas to the group.

Honestly, I prefer that over the need/greed system because even that can be taken advantage of without the right set guidelines within the group.