Why make Priority weapons when the system already does a lot?

[Norack]

Seriously when doing skirmish and other things, how come people always wanna do priority based things? when the system already lots who gets what? its like you win so than the system does a lot, highest person win he gets the weapon. Ok now he got the weapon, now everyone lot again. A different person gets the highest lot now you pass the weapon to him? Plus there are way to many ppl out there that ninja stuff. I had to go through 28 skirmish's to finally get my WHM cane to drop and this is all we do is priority because thats what everyone does. Out of the first 27 skirmishes i got about 16 of those drops somehow but i politely passed to the ppl that called the weapon, i could of easily used the weapon on my other job, but i didnt call it the other guy did so i passed it to him. Than on the 28th run my cane finally droped and i was the only one that wanted it, but the BLM got it so i asked him to kindly pass it and he switches to his WHM and goes "But I have a WHM to I can use it" takes it and jsut warps out. So kind of a rant thread but still the point stands. Why do ppl wana risk stupid ninja idiots and losing your loot on priority when the system already lots and randomizes it for us?

[Nuru]

It was your choice to keep your drops or hand them out like Santa. Nobody is setting these rules and if they don't like you keeping your loot, then you can find another group. The content is easy enough to do it with a pick-up party, and it has massive playability since people want to multi-meld and can only get one at a time, so there will always be people doing Skirmish.

[Norack]

It was your choice to keep your drops or hand them out like Santa. Nobody is setting these rules and if they don't like you keeping your loot, then you can find another group. The content is easy enough to do it with a pick-up party, and it has massive playability since people want to multi-meld and can only get one at a time, so there will always be people doing Skirmish.

I dont like being a douche though. I know that my fault im sorry. I guess having this happens builds up my black list though so i dont have to deal with creeps like this anymore. I know ppl like you wont understand this but they way you play a video game really shows how you act in real life. if your a giant dick like this in a game chances are your a giant dick in real life and wont have any friends. so good luck with that.

[Nuru]

I dont like being a douche though. I know that my fault im sorry. I guess having this happens builds up my black list though so i dont have to deal with creeps like this anymore. I know ppl like you wont understand this but they way you play a video game really shows how you act in real life. if your a giant dick like this in a game chances are your a giant dick in real life and wont have any friends. so good luck with that.

To be honest, it isn't dickery at all. You are subjecting the already-established looting and are questioning why people loot on it again after that.

The way my LS does it, or any pick-up group for that matter, is that before we go in, we decide on who gets what drop. if 3 people want an axe, and the axe drops, then those 3 people roll for it. Whoever wins gets the axe, rinse and repeat. That way, everyone only picks one item and if that item drops, its easier and more efficient for them to get what they want instead of some douchebag claiming all items. You don't need to hand them out like Santa Claus, but for god sakes, don't complain here if your item dropped and you decided to give it away to someone else. You should have kept it for yourself and then if the item dropped again, someone else would get it.

[Norack]

To be honest, it isn't dickery at all. You are subjecting the already-established looting and are questioning why people loot on it again after that.

The way my LS does it, or any pick-up group for that matter, is that before we go in, we decide on who gets what drop. if 3 people want an axe, and the axe drops, then those 3 people roll for it. Whoever wins gets the axe, rinse and repeat. That way, everyone only picks one item and if that item drops, its easier and more efficient for them to get what they want instead of some douchebag claiming all items. You don't need to hand them out like Santa Claus, but for god sakes, don't complain here if your item dropped and you decided to give it away to someone else. You should have kept it for yourself and then if the item dropped again, someone else would get it.

um, maybe i didnt explain it good the first time? For the sake of time lets just say me (the WHM) and the BLM did skirmish we went in I said i wanted The Cane, the BLM said he wanted the Axe. The cane droped to the BLM so what your saying is the way your LS does it that means that he woulda passed the Cane to me. But he just warped out. So either you just mis understood me before or no thats not a dick move at all.

[Nuru]

um, maybe i didnt explain it good the first time? For the sake of time lets just say me (the WHM) and the BLM did skirmish we went in I said i wanted The Cane, the BLM said he wanted the Axe. The cane droped to the BLM so what your saying is the way your LS does it that means that he woulda passed the Cane to me. But he just warped out. So either you just mis understood me before or no thats not a dick move at all.

I'm talking about if you had the Cane yourself and if you were to keep that cane, then it wouldn't be a dick move. lol

As far as Mr. Jerkface BLM goes, yeah he's a dick and deserves to be on your blacklist. Make it known to your LS and FFXIV fansites who he is and what he has done to you. Its the best way to red flag people for content and make it well-known for their douchebaggery.

[yoshikwalla]

Whenever I start a group (and I do a lot) I ask, "What weapons are you looking for and what is the weapon you need the most?" Then I write everyone's name down and what weapon they called. Whatever weapons aren't on the list (say, everyone wants every weapon but the staff and bow) then whoever gets it keeps it. Its about setting rules and seeing if people agree to follow them. If not, change it around and ask for suggestions.

If you join a group and need a weapon, don't be afraid to say "I need the -insert weapon type- from this dungeon" and make sure everyone knows. Unless everyone agrees on some rules and guidelines for the runs, your group isn't obligated to agree and follow what you said, but if your opinion is out there you might get it even if someone else gets the drop. (i.e. "Hey, I already have these claws, have my drop since you said you need it")

Also, don't be afraid to suggest a priority rule. If no one wants to then they don't have to but it doesn't hurt to suggest it. Don't just say it like you own the place but suggest it.

You just have to remember that you're not in charge. As a party leader you just make the team and suggest a way of doing things to the group. Mostly, it's about being flexible and open-minded. As a party member you have the right to suggest ideas to the group.

Honestly, I prefer that over the need/greed system because even that can be taken advantage of without the right set guidelines within the group.

[Black_Wing]

It's why I despise pugs for this type of content. Just don't do pugs....or at least pugs that set arbitrary rules such as this.

[Nuru]

It's why I despise pugs for this type of content. Just don't do pugs....or at least pugs that set arbitrary rules such as this.

Pugs? Unless you mean Pugilist, or that fish mob from FFXI, I don't understand what you mean by that.

[Norack]

Pugs? Unless you mean Pugilist, or that fish mob from FFXI, I don't understand what you mean by that.

PUG = Pick Up Group
PGL = Pugilist (It's not abbreviated as PUG thats just what ppl use cause they can remember it easier.)