Forked Tower Cannot Enter Unplayable

[Zeekdober]

I'm guessing that because they don't use a PTR and do all their testing in house they never ran into the problem of trying to get their group together. They probably had just enough to fill the raid inside the instance at all times. But even then, one person should've seen this coming. "Wow there's 48 of us doing this, how will this work with 7,000 trying to do this?" See? Takes two seconds to think.

[Alyx-Greywind]

It really depends. If the random player who gets in is trying to do the fight, not intentionally griefing or causing a problem, I think they'd be 100% in the right to report someone who, for example, deliberately killed them with a tankbuster and then refused to raise. On the other hand, if the sniper is the one causing problems, I don't think it will end well for them. But this all seems difficult to prove either way unless there's video or something is said in the in-game chat.

Technically the Sniper isn't doing anything wrong by entering the lottery as that's a game mechanic. If they proceed to grief the group intentionally though? That's a reportable offence. If they just so happened to get into the instance and are trying? Nothing you can do even as a full premade.

[Voidmage]

I'm guessing that because they don't use a PTR and do all their testing in house they never ran into the problem of trying to get their group together. They probably had just enough to fill the raid inside the instance at all times. But even then, one person should've seen this coming. "Wow there's 48 of us doing this, how will this work with 7,000 trying to do this?" See? Takes two seconds to think.

I think the reason behind it is a mix honestly.

They looked at BA, saw that people liked it but didn’t realize that they liked the content itself and not the entry method.

They want to push their “new fight design” and as that overtuned the fights again like in chaotic. Add to this that the big content creators love to praise hard fights and they tried to jump on that train as well.
Too bad that this time even they don’t hide their criticism for the most part regarding this.

They looked at chaotic, saw that PF was swarmed at first and thought that the whole zone would fight over entrance not thinking that most players don’t want to try hard content and as such the thing would be deserted.

In summary I think the sum of all that is that they are completely detached from the playerbase in that regard.
They have absolutely no idea anymore what players like or want and that is the result of them completely turning back the communication with the playerbase.

The sad thing is that I truly like OC and I will give them praise in quite a number of other regards but Forked tower is a huge disaster right now.
Quite a number of players waited so long to finally get content again like the Bozja raids or Delubrum Reginae normal just to get blocked by yet another content made for the big raiders again.
Content you AGAIN just can’t jump in and learn on the fly.
Content you have to AGAIN use guides and even have to use Discord now (without which BA and this would be dead on arrival) because it’s so extremely punishing and mechanic heavy.

This is the one thing in this content I think they absolutely deserve to be chewed out on.
Not that it will change anything.
My only hope is that the Japanese forum is on fire right now. (I think the last time it was like that was after the 7.0 story)

[Rizlee]

its alright guys, I accepted the defeat and will skip doing forked tower, for now I am just maxed out +1 arcanaut gear and phantom job mastery, I hope the future relic weapon upgrades dont require this since I won't be doing it ever, gonna skip future zone grinds too its just not worth the hassle and maybe it wasn't made for people like me, I'll just unsub and return when the new savage tier or ultimate drops in the future

[IzVale]

On top of that we also have Discord Groups telling people to leave the instance for them, pretty sure this isn't how the Devs wanted the content to happen.

This morning I laughed about it.
Then I witnessed it 10 minutes ago.

Good Job, squee

[Stasya]

I'm guessing that because they don't use a PTR and do all their testing in house they never ran into the problem of trying to get their group together. They probably had just enough to fill the raid inside the instance at all times. But even then, one person should've seen this coming. "Wow there's 48 of us doing this, how will this work with 7,000 trying to do this?" See? Takes two seconds to think.

It's easy to see the zone with rewards/fates/boss fates/raid is rushed to release to appease "where the hell is content" crowd but drop rock bottom on it.

There is one raid not because everyone likes BA. It is excuse to not make two variations of same raid (bozja 48 man/48 man savage). It was also very convenient to redo BA style entering to raid, because drum roll .... it's their big 10 iq tech from crafting zone where you go to point and wait to enter instanced fate ....

Can't wait clowns who work at SE smirk and release a copy of bozja raids style in 7.5 zone and forked tower left in dust without feature to enter as 48 man like drs.

[Arohk]

Honestly feels like they picked the worst from both and combined it, while downgrading the job customization system.

They looked at Bozja and Eureka and thought,
man.. BAldesions Arsenal was really bad, lets make it even worse this time.

[Maltothoris]

Well the thing is is how precise forked tower is per say. You need specific jobs, such as 2 thieves, 2 geos, 2 rangers, 6-8 chemists(since they are the only ones that rez, 2 bards and 2 oracles and at least 1 berserker to start with. (Edit: The big issue with the ones who are trying to sneak in are that they could be filling one of the required jobs/spots.) Then you have the second boss, where 1 person not doing the mech leads to a wipe like with snowballs or fire. Then you have the bridge sections(the farthest I've gotten up to) and all the details with the last section. Then the final set of rooms with the lockpick guys and then hoping people kill the add that spawns on the outside. Finally the last boss, with how you need berserk for the purple canister. Asking to be that precise with 4 lifes and in a random lottery, in hindsight this obviously doesn't bode well.

BA if i recall, only needed the logos action for looking for traps and the sacrificed one while DRS needed more but it was in a separate instance.

There are quite the mess ups here and there since makes it all baffling.

[FuturePastNow]

On top of that we also have Discord Groups telling people to leave the instance for them, pretty sure this isn't how the Devs wanted the content to happen.

If any Discord group says that, they'd better have a plan to kill the support boss when it spawns, because asking players outside to kill it for them may not work

[Kuroka]

They want to push their “new fight design” and as that overtuned the fights again like in chaotic. Add to this that the big content creators love to praise hard fights and they tried to jump on that train as well.

I was insulted for calling it "overtuned garbage" lol

But thats what it is, you can just clear in a few pulls - you dont get more then one pull to begin with! Drop as many insta kill stuff in there as you can - players sure love it!

Content you AGAIN just can’t jump in and learn on the fly.
Content you have to AGAIN use guides and even have to use Discord now (without which BA and this would be dead on arrival) because it’s so extremely punishing and mechanic heavy.

Thats so true... like idm wiping 2-6 hours on some ex trial, but there or chaotic? without guides and a TON of luck you will never clear. Even if you know em blind, just have enough others that dont.

I miss Cid or release Ozma... it felt hard but never that impossible...

Well the thing is is how precise forked tower is per say. You need specific jobs, such as 2 thieves, 2 geos, 2 rangers, 6-8 chemists(since they are the only ones that rez, 2 bards and 2 oracles and at least 1 berserker to start with.

YOU NEED WHAT?? Are you telling me you cant clear unless you bring certain jobs??