Are people excited for a new Deep Dungeon?

[Shurrikhan]

Willing to give it a shot, especially if they move away from pomanders and incorporate phantom jobs. But I won't be surprised if it's just the sequel of the sequel of the sequel to Potd

I'm curious to see what ideas on that note even the forums would be capable of, and how much more ambitious/compelling those ideas would be than what we ultimately get....


That being said, with some Phantom Jobs having actions (say, https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Occult_Falcon) that "Triggers traps at the designated area", it does seem likely that that will be the case, no? Maybe on a separate progression system or at least with greatly accelerated progression? Or possibly pick-one-of-three ("card") upgrades instead on a steady leveling system?

[Mecia]

Just incorporate lost actions and essences into the next DD man its not rocket science. I would never stop playing it.

[KageTokage]

Thinking back on it, Eureka Orthos did virtually nothing to actually differentiate itself from HoH aside from adding a few new types of pomanders and even HoH only added the magicites and auspice buffs as the new gimmicks over the original PotD so...I have zero expectations here.

Being able to just make a persistent load-out of lost actions in a more true roguelite fashion is the most I could hope for and not actually that big of an ask, but even if they did I'd still be worried about them making silly design choices like requiring certain abilities to make bosses beatable.

[Kranel_San]

Thinking back on it, Eureka Orthos did virtually nothing to actually differentiate itself from HoH aside from adding a few new types of pomanders and even HoH only added the magicites and auspice buffs as the new gimmicks over the original PotD so...I have zero expectations here.

Being able to just make a persistent load-out of lost actions in a more true roguelite fashion is the most I could hope for and not actually that big of an ask, but even if they did I'd still be worried about them making silly design choices like requiring certain abilities to make bosses beatable.

This is why I believe when it comes to dev testing, they should first and foremost fight and overcome these bosses without any buffs or powerups obtained from the instance.

If you can beat the boss without any powerups, then it should be a matter of skill and luck, rather than purely just luck and praying for a certain lost action to drop. A great example is Nybeth Obdilord (PotD floor 100) who actually can be defeated without any buffs or specific pomanders, although that's more like fighting the boss on hard mode. In the end, it's still plausible, and what makes the experience fun.

[Valence]

We had scary auto's in PoTD and HoH, and we had scary mechs in EO. What else is left to make mobs scary with?

Perhaps going back to Final Fantasy roots where a lot of those iconic ailments like heavy, slow, mini, etc, can mess you up, and aren't tied to bloated DDR?