Forked Tower runs are impossible to get organized

[Dranari]

Trying to do a forked tower run in an organized group is borderline impossible. Joining the same instance with 6 full 8 man parties is completely impossible. Me and a group i joined spent an hour and 30 minutes trying to get everyone into the same instance and ended up just having 4/6 groups do Forked tower while the rest got left behind cus we couldnt get together.
Why on gods green earth is there no party system for 48 people. Its probably the worst system i have ever experienced in any video game, i LOVE forked tower. But being completely unable to participate in the first place, is just so bad.

[Kyuushi]

I was also in that run. It wasn't even the worst experience. Yesterday with the same group we managed to get all 6 parties in an instance and progged the first boss for the first time and got it to 10% enrage. We were all prepped and ready to go and get the kill but had to try to do the instance roullette all over again because the instance timer ran out. After 2 hours of trying to re-organize people just gave up and we were stuck with that 10% enrage.

[Nuketini]

I never see more than five people show up to the entrance

[CNitsah]

Trying to do a forked tower run in an organized group is borderline impossible. Joining the same instance with 6 full 8 man parties is completely impossible. Me and a group i joined spent an hour and 30 minutes trying to get everyone into the same instance and ended up just having 4/6 groups do Forked tower while the rest got left behind cus we couldnt get together.
Why on gods green earth is there no party system for 48 people. Its probably the worst system i have ever experienced in any video game, i LOVE forked tower. But being completely unable to participate in the first place, is just so bad.

3 reasons :

- The whole 48 men from a 72 people instance fiasco
- it's still early, so many people still aren't lvl 20 (even if I see more and more of them)
- contrary to SE belief, most players are not interested in high difficulty raids, and word is spreading it is (even the japanese complain about the lack of a story version that's not as hard). An argument can be made it's gonna be easier with the right gear, but honestly, most people have no interest in farming that much for gear. Most of OC is aimed at small fraction of what Eureka and Bozja/Zadnor were.

Try again in a month or two, when the first players will begin to have optimized gear. You probably won't get place in those because you lack the gear, but that's another story.

[LilaIronman]

Try again in a month or two, when the first players will begin to have optimized gear. You probably won't get place in those because you lack the gear, but that's another story.

Brother
Its gonna be dead content in a week

[Dranari]

- it's still early, so many people still aren't lvl 20 (even if I see more and more of them)

This isnt about "being level 20" i have lobbies with 50 level 20s and nobody wants to do tower because its NOT clearable with randoms. This was proven in BA when EU had a 95% clearrate using organized groups and JP was sitting at like 10% because they stuck to the "we gotta do it with randoms" logic. I am also doing this like i said in an organized group. EVERYONE is maxed, has gear, and tries to get as much of an edge as we can.

- contrary to SE belief, most players are not interested in high difficulty raids, and word is spreading it is (even the japanese complain about the lack of a story version that's not as hard). An argument can be made it's gonna be easier with the right gear, but honestly, most people have no interest in farming that much for gear. Most of OC is aimed at small fraction of what Eureka and Bozja/Zadnor were.

Ye i mean this game has 99% giga casuals, that is the exact reason we gotta just be able to go in as a group so we can actually play the damn content.

Try again in a month or two, when the first players will begin to have optimized gear. You probably won't get place in those because you lack the gear, but that's another story.

I dont know why u think i dont have gear. I LITERALLY already have full +1 set and have 11 Phantom Jobs maxed out. I have cleared all ultis except TOP, and clear savages within 1-3 weeks depending on their difficulty. Its not MY skill issue/gear issue, i am prepared.

[ForteNightshade]

3 reasons :

- The whole 48 men from a 72 people instance fiasco
- it's still early, so many people still aren't lvl 20 (even if I see more and more of them)
- contrary to SE belief, most players are not interested in high difficulty raids, and word is spreading it is (even the japanese complain about the lack of a story version that's not as hard). An argument can be made it's gonna be easier with the right gear, but honestly, most people have no interest in farming that much for gear. Most of OC is aimed at small fraction of what Eureka and Bozja/Zadnor were.

Try again in a month or two, when the first players will begin to have optimized gear. You probably won't get place in those because you lack the gear, but that's another story.

The irony of their drip feed content releases is the game is so starved for anything to do when they finally release something the last thing people want is to be told yet again "you have to wait until it gets easier." By that point, they've long given up on even bothering. Which then leads to the dev team getting frustrated despite it being entirely their own fault. Or at the very least, SE's fault.

Everything about Forked Tower outside the actual content itself is a disaster that just shouldn't be happening ten years into a game's lifespan. These are amateur level design mistakes.

This. Its not meant do be cleared fully premade... its the same as complaining when the cutting edge world first statics do "tank only" or "no healer" runs... yes 0,0001% the players can do that, but thats nothing you should pay attention to...

I want some harder duties where i can just jump in and have fun, without being locked out from loot or limited by reset...

It's simply not possible to do this content with a random group of 48. Forked Tower is not only harder than Chaotic, but doesn't benefit from having an entire datacenter worth of players even if they did queue via the raid finder ala how JP approached it. You're literally trapped by 72 player limit. So not only do you need 40 other likeminded players in the same as your party, they need to be of good enough skill to actually do the content which is at a Savage level.

This is not content you can "jump in and have fun" on a whim. Without a premade I can guarantee you right now you won't ever step past the first boss even months from now. Nobody is going to touch this without premade parties on NA and EU. Heck, even JP is complaining about it.

[Gurgeh]

The irony of their drip feed content releases is the game is so starved for anything to do when they finally release something the last thing people want is to be told yet again "you have to wait until it gets easier." By that point, they've long given up on even bothering. Which then leads to the dev team getting frustrated despite it being entirely their own fault. Or at the very least, SE's fault.

Everything about Forked Tower outside the actual content itself is a disaster that just shouldn't be happening ten years into a game's lifespan. These are amateur level design mistakes.

Yes 100% the reason I don't bother with savage.
It's not 99%. It's 100%.
I arse about with F all to do because all the opportunities to join people 'I know' in savage who can guide me a bit here and there and keep me company without it being 7 people carrying me which is just a painful cringe making waste of their time, and means I'm not sharing an experience at all, have passed 6-8 weeks ago.
I arse about with F all to do because I've cleared Ex but I'm damned if I'm going to pull the same Ex 300 times in a row for another 48/98 clears for a mount I can't get yet anyway.
Even then I arse about with F all to do 1 out of 2 nights because I can't even get into Ex with my 1 geared job. Oh and this delay to progressing ex is s big reason why I'm late to savage. 'avoidably late'. It should be a race to get into savage week 1 and 2 only. And there should be 'no' delay getting into Ex in 'any' job, at , all.
Then new content comes out... and it's the same all over again. The casual is non content, and can't get into Ex and I can't get into savage, and by the time I can, it's all over.
It's this, we wait for ages, finally get offered a nothing burger of casual, and blocked from the interesting content because we don't want to no life it. We just want to enjoy it.

"Enjoying yourself for a change?"
No, not really. I take it that's what you were hoping to hear?

Although, I am having enough fun in CE. I'm just pretending Forked, and the relics aren't a thing. I'm just here to do CEs till I get bored of getting better at them.

[Arohk]

It's simply not possible to do this content with a random group of 48. Forked Tower is not only harder than Chaotic, but doesn't benefit from having an entire datacenter worth of players even if they did queue via the raid finder ala how JP approached it. You're literally trapped by 72 player limit. So not only do you need 40 other likeminded players in the same as your party, they need to be of good enough skill to actually do the content which is at a Savage level.

seeing how many people die to field bosses or fates in OC all the time should make everyone realize that a pug of randoms will never ever clear this.

Clearing Chaotic was already harder than clearing the first savage bosses, and if it is indeed above chaotic, yeah.. no shot any random group will ever clear this before the servers shut down.

[yesnt]

seeing how many people die to field bosses or fates in OC all the time should make everyone realize that a pug of randoms will never ever clear this.

Clearing Chaotic was already harder than clearing the first savage bosses, and if it is indeed above chaotic, yeah.. no shot any random group will ever clear this before the servers shut down.

Come on now. There are still a lot of new players in OC trying the content for the first time. Of course there are always going to be a few ending up dead. The first days players died like flies to the mechanics, people can't fortune tell lol. The majority can solve the mechanics at this point.