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    Feedback: New Trust Implementation and Future.

    firstly thank you to developer who continues to work on this feature for us its been a very nice quality of life to the game for those who play late night hours, have very few or no friends, or just those who want to enjoy a solo adventure.

    i am glad we do not have to return all the way to the start of dungeons when death invetibably hits us like a truck (literally lol)
    i am grateful for the attempt to make deaths more forgivable as well but i find this newest addition a bit confusing as its supposed to stack up but it doesnt seem to work as ideally as i though it would an deaths still occur to frequent this could be a bug however or just bad latency. but i was hoping it would've been similiar to how the death count was done in the hydaelyn trial or the solo instanced Zenos clash at the very end of Endwalker as that seems to be a much more proficient an ideal way to go about in my humble opinion

    as for future implementations i would like it if you could keep adding them to story fights/trials of previous expansions those tend to be difficult for newer players to find groups for if they are not already in an established group etc. you dont have to completely change the fights to suit the npcs i remember how you did the fight with the Varis in Bozja for example an even how you've been doing story fights in more recent patches and quests i think this should continue to be an option.
    and next i would like it if you could give a npc comrades a boost in their gains >.> its a very daunting and excessive to run dungeons with them at the set exp they gain especially considering we players out level them quickly an may have a favorite character we want to continue to bring along with us thru other dungeons etc. like i would say a good idea would be to grant the npc's a boost in gains after they've leveled up once in a dungeon so the next go around they earn twice as much exp an can continue along with us into the next dungeon etc after they've done two more clears etc.

    next something i think would be really cool or fun is if you let us create and customize our own party of trusts sort of like how we can with our retainers and our grand company squadron. only this time let us change their appearance too with a special fantasia item unique to them and let me be super clear i don't mean or suggest changing pre-established characters like that i mean more so like giving us the option to have a set amount of premade npc avatars that can then later be customized to suit the user's preferences etc and allow for them to fit all categories: Tanks, Healers, Melee, Ranged, Magic etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowyZero View Post
    as for future implementations i would like it if you could keep adding them to story fights/trials of previous expansions
    No, absolutely not.

    No more duty support. No more hollowing out, homogenizing and removing all the interesting mechanics from the game's content for the sake of literal bots. From the dungeons to the MSQ, I'm tired of this MMO being designed around NPCs instead of real players.
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    Bring back 6.0 Dragoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    No, absolutely not.

    No more duty support. No more hollowing out, homogenizing and removing all the interesting mechanics from the game's content for the sake of literal bots. From the dungeons to the MSQ, I'm tired of this MMO being designed around NPCs instead of real players.
    well are you going to carry then all the dozens of new accounts or players on your back then and ferry them thru all expansions across the past decade then? no? okay then take your fear mongering an shove off. the system was designed to alleviate que times for DPS mains and new players who can't get the content to pop no matter how long they wait or how many times they try to shout or ask their fc's or discord servers. an as an added bonus it can enrich people's first time of dungeon playthrough cause no toxic arse hat is yelling at them to skip cut-scenes or hurry up or locking them out of fights just because they want to enjoy their first time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowyZero View Post
    well are you going to carry then all the dozens of new accounts or players on your back then and ferry them thru all expansions across the past decade then? no? okay then take your fear mongering an shove off. the system was designed to alleviate que times for DPS mains and new players who can't get the content to pop no matter how long they wait or how many times they try to shout or ask their fc's or discord servers. an as an added bonus it can enrich people's first time of dungeon playthrough cause no toxic arse hat is yelling at them to skip cut-scenes or hurry up or locking them out of fights just because they want to enjoy their first time.
    Yes, that's what roulettes are for.
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    Bring back 6.0 Dragoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Yes, that's what roulettes are for.
    exactly what i thought you're not gunna help them in any way just gunna tell them "just do the roullette bro trust me bro you'll get the dungeon you need to do." this is why i hate playing with players like you, you don't care at all cause you already did everything so why even try to do anything to alleviate their struggle to get things done but thankfully for us SE isn't listening to toxic minds like yours. but anyways i am looking forward to how they improve the trust/duty support system going forward which they plan to do since its been widely well received by a bigger chunk of this game's player base good luck with your ai hate campaign o7
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowyZero View Post
    exactly what i thought you're not gunna help them in any way just gunna tell them "just do the roullette bro trust me bro you'll get the dungeon you need to do." this is why i hate playing with players like you, you don't care at all cause you already did everything so why even try to do anything to alleviate their struggle to get things done but thankfully for us SE isn't listening to toxic minds like yours. but anyways i am looking forward to how they improve the trust/duty support system going forward which they plan to do since its been widely well received by a bigger chunk of this game's player base good luck with your ai hate campaign o7
    What are you talking about? I'm saying I will do the roulette, and the roulette will place me into the duty that a newer player was queuing for. That's how the duty roulette works, and why it exists.
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    Bring back 6.0 Dragoon.

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    The game could use a more more robust Trust system that covers mandatory content at least, since aside from future-proofing the game when the player count drops to really low levels (or hell, even current-proofs low population data centers), it lets people get through the MSQ without having to be heckled or hurried along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    The game could use a more more robust Trust system that covers mandatory content at least, since aside from future-proofing the game when the player count drops to really low levels (or hell, even current-proofs low population data centers), it lets people get through the MSQ without having to be heckled or hurried along.
    Be nice if besides just glamour rewards. You can get portraits with a sticker ofa chibi of yoru favorite scion. Or even some interactions of them in their outfits
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    A happy family between a viera, a goddess and a child

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    As a very pro-Trust and Duty Support player that finally finished the DT grind for those summer costumes and "Goldheart" title, I also love the system, the extra personality it brings, and how user friendly it is. I also really appreciate the fact that each NPC's been programmed with quirks that reflect their personality and the bits of dialogue that they add.

    Personally, I would love to see it be further enhanced with more unique interactions. DT didn't have any easter eggs in dungeons that the Trust units wouldn't normally enter. For example, Ktesis Hyperborea's first boss has a special interaction for every individual Scion that you only see if you work to get them there.

    That said, the personality in the base dungeons and trials feel more enhanced in Dawntrail. You can visibly notice Krile improving as a fighter the deeper into DT you get, for example, and everyone seems to chatter more.

    And I especially like seeing more trials put into Duty Support. It's wonderful stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLolly View Post
    You can visibly notice Krile improving as a fighter the deeper into DT you get, for example, and everyone seems to chatter more..
    have they added more lines? when i did it last every time i go in without trust members who were NOT in the actual DT msq and they dont say a word :/
    I took Graha Urianger and Thancred and its just silence.
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