Bozja and Eureka replayability hurt

[Infindox]

Dal should be manageable with 5, probably 2-3 if sweaty (dinoichyus mount). Hydatos and pyros bunnies are available from when you enter the zone and as long as you do the fate you should have the opportunity to get a bunny and get the bronz/silver/gold chest it leads to (eurekan petrel and eldthurs). Pagos coffers are thrown at you for completing nms (Pagos wrap set, the other Pagos set). I don’t believe conditional virtue/zanetsuken glamours are drops in OC which are the only BA/discordy eureka drops I can think of, similarly DR(n) is something you can put up a pf for and usually get 4 others for the big echo and clear with few issues (early to rise, gold Gabriel). The majority of the other glamours that have crashes are from storm blood and shadowbringers maps (south seas, rain, quaint/boullevardier, rebel, fibreglass, ala mhigan).

Most of the damage is to old map loot and “immersion” - what reason does explicitly Pagos/eurekan gear have to be in Bermuda Triangle etc). The lack of carrots strikes me as particularly weird especially since both of the carrot chests I did gave me 3 piety materia and a ribbon prism. The guaranteed portal/moogle maps seemed to be doing a good enough job at keeping the market supplied with material while not crashing it entirely, with the gc lootckboxes possibly supplying just a few too many minions. It doesn’t seem like it’s the intended outcome, but we’ll have to see if they comment on this.

I’d like gold/silver to come in the boxes personally, random 100-300 seems pretty fair.

I actually agree with the gold/silver in chests. Would give people reason to roam around in between CEs.

It may not be the intended outcome, but I'm not sure what they expected. I end up just selling to my retainer most of the stuff because the price has crashed that much, only bothering to sell *some* of the mounts on the mb (some have crashed so bad they aren't even worth that). Even the new minions and music have crashed already. Ironically the best thing to get in the chests is that demimateria, which just means free gil, and that 300k gold piece (which is intended as a pity system for Chemist to get an elixir but hey, still gil).

[Kuroka]

What i hate most is, there was no reason to do this. Just use some recolors, reskins... there are tons of stuff they could use and not hurt old content, but no...

[AvoSturmfaust]

AS I HEARD i cant confirm it yet, but a few people i know and even someone from the balance staff said you cant even super rare drop fantasia in OC, so not the retainer fantasia real fantasia, lets be real for a sec when this is true everything else is anyway pointless why bother to farm bozja/eureka when i even can get fantasia in OC

but like i said, needs confirmation, but usually the balance discord staff member are not lying

[BokoToloko]

It's puzzling how the overworld coffers vastly outclass the pots coffers and how they copy rewards from both Eureka and Bozja.

It's okay if they put rewards on the same tonic as the Bozjan lockboxes: rare furniture, a chance for the Pure White/Jet Black dyes, old EX craftables, materias, rare furniture like the Verdant partition and a rare mount exclusive to those coffers. Hell, they could've even used the chance to add recolors of older craftables just like Pagos and Anemos did. And the only thing you need is look at the map with the marked positions and check for the silver coffers. What's the point of having the Petalodus cost 99 Sanguinites (which are a valuable currency) if you can casually loot it overworld?

Yoshida said once they wanted to adress the feedback about the scarcity of rewards in newer content and, in this mode, it's clear they completely misunderstood where was the feedback coming from and the point of it. Now, every time I go for those coffers, I get flooded with a lot of rewards that would've invaluable if I didn't receive so many of them to the point of pointlesness.

PS: I also agree the coffers should've dropped gold/silver pieces

[Daralii]

What i hate most is, there was no reason to do this. Just use some recolors, reskins... there are tons of stuff they could use and not hurt old content, but no...

A big part of how they measure success, based on how they talked up the EW relics, is participation metrics. If they remove most of the lingering incentive from the old field ops by putting their most valuable rewards in the new one, they can brag about how many people played OC instead of Eureka and Bozja combined.

[Hallarem]

They actively killed their old content. Gg

[Kuroka]

A big part of how they measure success, based on how they talked up the EW relics, is participation metrics. If they remove most of the lingering incentive from the old field ops by putting their most valuable rewards in the new one, they can brag about how many people played OC instead of Eureka and Bozja combined.

Ik but still, the new shiny stuff usually is enough for the start... its just frustrating... imagine buying the mount for 8-12 mill and two days later its 600k lol

[Johners]

I don't think it's really a problem and if anything, some more QoL changes to old content so it's not as group dependant would go a long way. Old content being time consuming several expansions later isn't a substitute for new content. Let us queue into BA from Kugane already and reduce the material cost of older relic armour/weapons.

[CCheshire]

Ik but still, the new shiny stuff usually is enough for the start... its just frustrating... imagine buying the mount for 8-12 mill and two days later its 600k lol

TBH, that's the fate of anyone who buys new rewards on day 1, really like nothing stopping them from waiting 1 week later like I do see if prices are better.

I don't mind since Euraka and Bozja are old content now, and if there are more ways to get rewards, it's good since it's more accessible to more players. They can't create an infinite number of new items, and I had bought certain glams, hairs, and minions on the patch for millions, which are now like 500g from chests, because that's the way of MMO life, everything will be recycled forever.

[Jaltaer]

They actively killed their old content. Gg

Well yeah, as far as the devs are concerned, once the patch cycle is over, the content ceases to exist in their minds. There's definitely nobody still progressing the MSQ who wants to enjoy older side content that is in the game, or people on Free Trial who can't access the newer stuff. This sort of hostile design towards people wanting to engage with older stuff in the game isn't anything new unfortunately.