OC NEEDS multiparty queuing, forked tower is a orginizational nightmare!

[HazamaKawa]

Occult Crecent should allow alliances of players to join together instead of spending 30 minutes leaving and rejoining instances to try and locate the rest of your groups parties. It baffles the mind to how SE thought players could rouse half an instance into joining an optional dungeon, instead of implementing a system to lets pre-made parties enter together. SE have Alliance size PF formats for raids and Delubrum Reginae yet the crescent get left whith an antiquated system that was a pain in BA but made worse with the smaller instance sizes. I have no complaints with the areas content but accessing this content has been a complete blunder.

This needs to be fixed asap or atleast before the second zone comes out. Dropped the ball on an otherwise great addition..

[Falak]

Small indie company

[sugmacoganbols]

multi dollar company

[itachi-otsutsuki]

Yeah, it is truly awful. They need to patch this immediately or it's going to be dead content in about a week after all the hardcore masochists are done with it.

[Router]

Please do something about this. Currently Forked Tower groups spend more time organizing and waiting for weather than they actually spend in Forked Tower

[HazamaKawa]

Another thing that would be nice is the option to save waymarks for the forked tower, it baffles the mind that it isn't there already.

[zakilegs]

3rd 48 man group session we have had to cancel in a few days since we were unable to queue instance together.
1 party being in a completely fresh instance with no way to join them since the instance is locked.
Trying to join them just puts us in the same previous instance over and over again.
SE please add the same multi-party queuing system as in DRS.

[Senri_95]

It would be interesting if someone from SE, not Yoshida though since he has made it clear on numerous occasions that he's out of touch with ffxiv and the ffxiv-playerbase, could explain what exactly their thought process and motivation behind this method of queuing into OC and FT was. No matter how much I try to come up with good reasons why this awful system exists, I can't. If their intention was for random players to meet up in OC and spontaneously be like "hey wanna do FT?" and tackle the content, then by now they must be very embarassed.

You can't do FT this way, because:

• You require a certain number of level 20 players in the same instance. Then you need to wait for the correct weather to appear. Then... you need to pray that at least 16 random players are willing to go into FT with you (good luck with that). If they aren't willing, then you wait 40 minutes for the weather to appear again.

• If they do want to go in the tower this time, great, but then you pray they don't join any CE's as the weather is up, because yes for some reason CE's still spawn during this crucial signup window of 5 minutes which requires not only a specific item (cipher) but also demands your character to physically be present at the Solitary Pavilion (in the middle of the map).

• Once you're in FT you pray the random gang of players that queued in can meet party role (tank/healer/dps) and very specific phantom job (and phantom job level) requirements. If they do (press x to doubt) then you pray that others are at the same prog point as you, which let's be real, will never be the case, as most players you meet this way are players interested in trying out FT for the first time.

• Then when you clear the first boss (which you won't because everyone else got pushed off the arena or died to towers), you have to get through a long section of dungeon mechanics (traps, hidden rooms, trash) and realize you have the majority of players on the Oracle phantom job, instead of geomancer and thief. (Unlike in an organised run (or you know an alliance PF party wink SE) you can't expect or require players to have read up on mechanics/studied a raidplan, expect them to know what phantom jobs (+ level) are mandatory, because it's a group of random players that got together - most of which who probably won't return after realizing that content like this requires a certain amount of actual organising.)

All of the above are indicators that random meetups within OC instances leading to FT progging was never the intention. So why make it so difficult for the players who want to access this content in a more realistic manner? Through this design players who avoid 3rd party communities to do content ingame are being gatekept, while the actual 3rd party communities are simultaneously being gatekept by fricking Jeffroy the Expedition Coordinator.

[Kuroka]

Lol suggesting you need to have the gold coin jobs.

I still stand with my opinion, its overtuned garbage if you cant do it with randoms at all. I fully support them locking out premades though... its fine once stuff dies down but right away?
CLL and Dalaria were ok, idk why they had to use the savage for normal mode...

[Senri_95]

Lol suggesting you need to have the gold coin jobs.

You misunderstand; it's not a suggestion, it's necessary to have at least 2 players on Geomancer and 2 players on Thief to progress past the first boss. There are more mandatory phantom jobs that you need (at either max or a certain level too). I can explain which and why, but since you refer to FT as "overtuned garbage" I'm going to assume you aren't too interested.

But thank you, you prove exactly why spontaneously going in FT with random players is just always going to be a mess and can't possibly be what SE intended, especially when the people in question refuse to inform themselves even a little bit about the core mechanics of the dungeon (spoiler: it requiring specific phantom jobs to progress further into it) but throwing themselves in the dungeon (in this case, discussion) anyway.