Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Carin-Eri]

Well, probably more of this incoming with 7.31

[Its_Kazzy_D]

When the relics were tome only, people said it was too easy they wanted a grind. When it's a grind, people complain that it takes too long. They really can't win.

[Ardeth]

When the relics were tome only, people said it was too easy they wanted a grind. When it's a grind, people complain that it takes too long. They really can't win.

To be fair for me personally I loved the Endwalker relic method. I never complained about it. It was 1000x better than this crap.

[SyferU]

To be fair for me personally I loved the Endwalker relic method. I never complained about it. It was 1000x better than this crap.

But what makes the relic weapon special is the time that you have to invest to get it. Endwalkers relic felt like any other weapon just come and pick it up. It really devalued the Endwalker relic.
The same way how Ultimate raiders are proud about the weapon they got for clearing difficult content. The average player is proud about the Relic which they had to invest a lot of time to obtain it.

[Ardeth]

But what makes the relic weapon special is the time that you have to invest to get it. Endwalkers relic felt like any other weapon just come and pick it up. It really devalued the Endwalker relic.
The same way how Ultimate raiders are proud about the weapon the got for clearing difficult content. The average player is proud about the Relic which they had to invest a lot of time to obtain it.

That's you not me. I don't want to deal with bullshit. So far this relic has been bullshit. The next step will be bullshit. I want a clear objective that isn't RNG that I can work at. There is no pride. I couldn't care less about pride in a video game. It's a video game.

The fact that after this RNG bullshit, it becomes like the Endwalker one. Almost like it's a better idea.

[HammAndCheese]

That's you not me. I don't want to deal with bullshit. So far this relic has been bullshit. The next step will be bullshit. I want a clear objective that isn't RNG that I can work at. There is no pride. I couldn't care less about pride in a video game. It's a video game.

The fact that after this RNG bullshit, it becomes like the Endwalker one. Almost like it's a better idea.

There is a clear objective, get the demiatma, most of the other relics had an RNG step in some form or fashion and it sounds like you just have bad luck with this one. EW relics were horrible and I never want them to do relics that way again. Relics are something you can grind on overtime (I am glad we didn't have to get demiatma for every relic, that would've been too much). I think its a perfect medium to have a one time grind followed by either less of a grind or tomes, we have 21 jobs now after all. I had bad luck with some of the demiatma but I just hard focused the ones I needed and got through it instead of endlessly complaining on the forums about it.

[SyferU]

That's you not me. I don't want to deal with bullshit. So far this relic has been bullshit. The next step will be bullshit. I want a clear objective that isn't RNG that I can work at. There is no pride. I couldn't care less about pride in a video game. It's a video game.

The fact that after this RNG bullshit, it becomes like the Endwalker one. Almost like it's a better idea.

I think you should be more Proud about the small things in life.
I'm not saying you should feel equally proud as a firefighter saving a person from a burning Building.
But you can definitely feel proud about your achievements no matter how small they are, even if it's just something you did in a game.

[Supersnow845]

I can honestly say I did not derive any "pride" out of doing all the ARR relics, or the steps of the HW ones I've done so far (recently finished getting all the crap for the Anima stage). In fact, it seems a lot of people forgot that even THOSE were "tomestone weapons" given how many thousands of Poetics they actually cost to get all the materials at various points, as well as Company Seals.

And no, I don't think tying relic weapons to Field Operations is any better because Eureka has been some of the most boring content I've ever done, and I doubt Bozja or Occult Crescent is any better.

At that point what do you even want a relic to be considering you don’t like literally any of the current SIX relic designs

If you genuinely just want a tomestone weapon then that already exists, it’s just not a relic

[Its_Kazzy_D]

To be fair for me personally I loved the Endwalker relic method. I never complained about it. It was 1000x better than this crap.

Maybe this content isn't for you then, and that's fine! I feel it's important to note that the EW relics were the exception, not the rule. Every other relic has been a grind, even to this day.