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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    The basic complaint is literally about the length of the grind: Specifically, the fact that the length is potentially unbounded because there's no fallback protecting you from RNG giving you zero progress indefinitely. To quote the OP:



    The problem is that in this forum's characteristic fashion, there is apparently no middle ground between free-and-instantaneous and takes-until-the-heat-death-of-the-universe.
    That's what I'd call a problem of feeling of injustice and a lack of respect from the game and not a problem of time. It's a criticism about the rng aspect of it, not the time it takes, which is similar to someone dangling a carrot in front of your face and taking it away every time you accomplish something by telling you "nope, better luck next time.... maybe, but you won't know for sure and by the way keep at it because your friend was a lot luckier and is already done with it so why not you?".
    That and the lack of options to trade off the surplus atma for the one that never wants to drop.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    If I was to take an extreme generalisation of bias on the distribution of the atma’s and say the two most quoted rarer ones (malachite and vedegris) are half as likely to show up as the other 4 then 99.85% of people will still have all of the atma after 147 CE blocks which is JUST enough to have enough silver to get one set of gear to +1 ignoring gold
    Who gives a crap about Occult gear if they don't run Forked? Most people are in there just for the relic. I would have been legit mad if I had to do twice more CEs than I did in there just to grab all the malachites and/or verdigris.
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    Last edited by Valence; 09-06-2025 at 06:18 PM.