Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Supersnow845]

Again I’m still not sure how you can say that this grind is incredibly unfair and beyond reasonable expectations when you still haven’t reached level 20. Something that was so common day one auroral mirages spawned as early as 3-4 hours after the content launched

[Ardeth]

Again I’m still not sure how you can say that this grind is incredibly unfair and beyond reasonable expectations when you still haven’t reached level 20. Something that was so common day one auroral mirages spawned as early as 3-4 hours after the content launched

Do I need to get to level 20 to prove that to you? When I do and I don't have 18 Demiatmas are you gonna give me a prize?

It's just bad. It doesn't feel rewarding at all as a zone. It's boring. I don't have to be level 20 to tell you that, but if it makes you feel better I'll get to level 20 so I can say the same things I have been saying about it.

Fuck I got 3 levels to get 8 fucking EIGHT demiatmas. The grind in front of me oh my lord. I need to speak from authority about how fucking awful a grind feels.

[Supersnow845]

Do I need to get to level 20 to prove that to you? When I do and I don't have 18 Demiatmas are you gonna give me a prize?

It's just bad. It doesn't feel rewarding at all as a zone. It's boring. I don't have to be level 20 to tell you that, but if it makes you feel better I'll get to level 20 so I can say the same things I have been saying about it.

Fuck I got 3 levels to get 8 fucking EIGHT demiatmas. The grind in front of me oh my lord. I need to speak from authority about how fucking awful a grind feels.

It’s not about having 18 demiatma’s at knowledge level 20. It’s the fact that whatever your actual opinion on OC you can’t really claim an “excessive” or “oppressive” grind when more people than not got knowledge level 20 in barely 3-4 hours when OC first came out

Like hell you already have 10 and you aren’t even at 20, you are actually well above average on luck, you are fine to hate OC but this isn’t any sort of “bad” grind

[Ardeth]

It’s not about having 18 demiatma’s at knowledge level 20. It’s the fact that whatever your actual opinion on OC you can’t really claim an “excessive” or “oppressive” grind when more people than not got knowledge level 20 in barely 3-4 hours when OC first came out

Like hell you already have 10 and you aren’t even at 20, you are actually well above average on luck, you are fine to hate OC but this isn’t any sort of “bad” grind

Above all else it feels bad. The rates suck. It feels like I am accomplishing nothing while I am accomplishing something. That's how bad it is.

[Valence]

It’s not about having 18 demiatma’s at knowledge level 20. It’s the fact that whatever your actual opinion on OC you can’t really claim an “excessive” or “oppressive” grind when more people than not got knowledge level 20 in barely 3-4 hours when OC first came out

Like hell you already have 10 and you aren’t even at 20, you are actually well above average on luck, you are fine to hate OC but this isn’t any sort of “bad” grind

I don't know why you keep turning this into ad hominems when the problems people have are with things that don't need to have completed it to get an opinion about it? And why you are defending this in the first place? What do you have to gain out of it?

[Supersnow845]

I don't know why you keep turning this into ad hominems when the problems people have are with things that don't need to have completed it to get an opinion about it? And why you are defending this in the first place? What do you have to gain out of it?

I’m not turning this into an ad hominem attack. This person is an extremely frustrated by the grind, calling it ridiculous. I’m pointing out that by the standards of the contents own design (that in another comment they said the levelling was fine) that it isn’t any sort of significant grind. I’m not saying they can’t have an opinion on the design of the atma step. I’m saying saying it’s a ridiculous grind is itself ridiculous

Like I’ve said in every comment. If you hate OC then fine, I don’t particularly like it either, but crashing out over a “grind” that’s decently easy to do in 3-4 hours just feels; idk maybe lazy is the correct word