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  1. #311
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    Nova_Antiquus's Avatar
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    Nova Antiquus
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    Hyperion
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I know I'm over 70 Fates by now, and I've gotten ONE Demi Atma. No idea how many hours spent.
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  2. #312
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Antiquus View Post
    I know I'm over 70 Fates by now, and I've gotten ONE Demi Atma. No idea how many hours spent.
    The drop rate from FATEs is about 5%. In my experience, it's normal to take 60 FATEs to get 1. After a while, you get 3 within several FATEs. Then it goes back to taking around 60 FATEs to get 1. But if you do the division, it ends up as a 5% rate overall.

    70 FATEs is really nothing because they die so quick. I got my 500 FATE achievement so quick in OC and I was doing it insanely casually like 1-3 hours a day, missing a lot of days and often just being 1-2 hours. If you don't want to put in the effort to fight a tiny amount of CEs (let's say up to 12 per demiatma type), then the alternative is enduring the bore of hundreds of FATEs for 3 of a given demiatma.
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  3. #313
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    It also doesn't help that the FATEs are so incompetently made that they die in seconds as they spawn. I had to go to Materia and play with the delay to even remotely enjoy my time. Someone should force the developers to play their ill-designed games. They'd fix it right away. God damn that zone is shit.

    I also only have 3 demiatmas. It's not even remotely fun. Honestly, now that I have the riding map I'm kinda done with it. It's so poorly designed and terrible that none of it is fun. It's just dull tedium.
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    Last edited by Ardeth; 08-10-2025 at 01:28 AM.

  4. #314
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    Sad-Panda's Avatar
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    Meredith Viera
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I have four alts and have completed the grind on two and the third is almost done.
    Am I crazy ?
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  5. #315
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sad-Panda View Post
    I have four alts and have completed the grind on two and the third is almost done.
    Am I crazy ?
    It's called luck. I still only have 6. This grind is miserable. There's no skill It's all rng and it's all shit.
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  6. #316
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    theunhappypotato's Avatar
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    Character
    Luci Thish
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    Lich
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    It's called luck. I still only have 6. This grind is miserable. There's no skill It's all rng and it's all shit.
    still better than EW relics
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  7. #317
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    It's called luck. I still only have 6. This grind is miserable. There's no skill It's all rng and it's all shit.
    At this point if you truly had been going into OC somewhat regularly and still only have 6 you are so statistically unlucky as to be functionally irrelevant to the balancing conversation. The rate is 20%/5%. The amount of people doing thousands of fates and grinding endlessly and getting nothing is so small that o don’t know we it keeps getting fixated on
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #318
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    CCheshire's Avatar
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    Black Tea
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    Marilith
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    Arcanist Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    It's called luck. I still only have 6. This grind is miserable. There's no skill It's all rng and it's all shit.
    I guess if you want, you can wait long enough, they'll boost step 1 demiatma in a few months.

    Most ppl will finish up in 2 weeks, so it's extremely rare to have to farm much longer than that, beyond just terrible luck overall.
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  9. #319
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by theunhappypotato View Post
    still better than EW relics
    I liked EW way more to be honest. The method sucked because it was repetitive, but being able to do whatever I wanted was vastly superior to this.
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  10. #320
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CCheshire View Post
    I guess if you want, you can wait long enough, they'll boost step 1 demiatma in a few months.

    Most ppl will finish up in 2 weeks, so it's extremely rare to have to farm much longer than that, beyond just terrible luck overall.
    I've only been doing it off and on for a few weeks. I'm only rank 13 because I honestly find FATE grinding to be insufferable so I do maybe an hour at a time before I want to die and repeat.
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