Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Granyala]

Because it would ruin the point of having multiple Atmas to begin with, which is to give each different region and CE different values for each player, otherwise people would just never attempt to spawn Calamity Bound past their first story-mandated one, or they'd just go to Heritage Found/Living Memory where they don't need to be sync'd down and is a lot easier as a result of iLvl creep, since FATEs are tuned to a 690 and lower iLvl. Video game players, especially MMO players, need restrictions, or they will always take the path of least resistance and then complain about the path offering very little resistance.

Completely beside the point. Once I have e.g.: all orange Atmas, I stop doing the CE's in the orange zone and I also would not venture into the overworld zone that has it drop from FATEs.

It's not as if CE's drop anything else that is worthwhile that you'd still need after you are done with this shitty droprate in the first place.

So again: why would a 1:1 trade of surplus Atma colors be "too easy"?

[RaionKansen]

I've grinded for several relics in the past, and while there was a grind I never felt like I was truly wasting my time. It's different this time around. Maybe I just got lucky in the past.

I don't see a world where SE tested how it "Feels" to grind demiatma. I've spent roughly 7 hours grinding fates between zones and have gotten ZERO drops. My time is too valuable for this shit.

I don't expect everything to be "handed" to me, but I want my time to be valued. At this point there needs to be some sort of pity system. Maybe for every fate you do, and don't get a demiatma, increase the drop rate? I'm not sure what the best solution is, all I do know is...I'm skipping this relic. I was so excited for a new relic. To finally have a new chase in the game, but this is just awful. So disappointing. It's like SE has not learned anything in 10+ years of development. It's no wonder why players have been bailing on this game lately. Soon, I might be joining them.

I just don't feel like this game is for me anymore.

I'm actually glad that all the people who cried about 1500 tomes get to suffer now. They got what they asked for. Mindless useless long grinds for a weapon that isnt even worth using.

[Barwara]

Still doing OK so far. Consistently getting at least one demiatma every playing session and avoiding the zones that already dropped all the demiatma I needed. The drop rate is just too low to go at it for hours on end but at this rate I should be done in 1-2 weeks max.

[IdleBlood]

Actually the atma drop is easy. Def they touched something after a couple of days after release

[Jeeqbit]

I'm actually glad that all the people who cried about 1500 tomes get to suffer now. They got what they asked for. Mindless useless long grinds for a weapon that isnt even worth using.

I'm glad too. This is exactly what we asked for! The weapon is also just a glamour or achievement thing, really. And it is best at the tail end of the expansion or for alt jobs.

Being this grindy for the first step is just way overkill.

They typically nerf the first step quite early on. Actually in a few ways. As more steps happen, they nerf some of the earlier ones. They nerf them way more after the expansion is over, as time goes on, as well.

[Granyala]

They typically nerf the first step quite early on. Actually in a few ways. As more steps happen, they nerf some of the earlier ones. They nerf them way more after the expansion is over, as time goes on, as well.

Yop.
Hence my first suggestion to wait for a nerf if it bothers people too much.

[VeyaAkemi]

I'm actually glad that all the people who cried about 1500 tomes get to suffer now. They got what they asked for. Mindless useless long grinds for a weapon that isnt even worth using.

Why are people like you trying to weave this "This is the monkey's paw you deserved!" narrative? this is exactly what I asked for, and if anything I am on the camp of thinking they could afford to be harder, not something I baited myself onto.

[Granyala]

I am on the camp of thinking they could afford to be harder

RNG grinds that eat a shitload of time != hard. Just pure unadulterated tedium.
Only thing to be considered hard in there is probably the tower instance. Even CE's are relatively easy, once you managed to see them a few times.

[VeyaAkemi]

RNG grinds that eat a shitload of time != hard. Just pure unadulterated tedium.

Do you have a point besides pedantry over definitions? replace the word "hard" with any other that you feel is suitable, "longer", "intense", even "boring" if you want to be disingenuous, I want more of that.

[Sin_Redblade]

Since my last post I have gained 10 levels and 1 whole materia drop, that to me is not worth the effort for the amount of time put in