Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Jestigeress]

You didn't spend 100 hours in South Horn and just getting 1, that is misinformation.

My exact words were this ... "For me for example in 100+ hours I have 1 Demiatma, with a mixture in Both OC and open world"

I can understand you wanting to be disingenuous and take my words out of context... but I never said I spent 100 hours in OC.

I also said this "Added info: I got my sole drop on open World DT fate so based on that singular drop I would have to say open world will be less then 1% and for OC it would be 0%. It also is a bit unusual how the drops occur were in open world if you group up or if any others are at the same fate your chances drop even more. You can say that might be RNG or there maybe an underlined, issue for how the drops are happening in DT Fates. Same could be said for OC drops and chest rewards while my Atma drops have been awful, but I have gotten very lucky with the Phantom Job stones (I only need 1 more to have all those Job stones), and the gear upgrade drops were as others are not as lucky."

I have only spent at most 30 hours out of 100 + in OC while I did not get one Atma I gotten 50 Aether Spun Gold, and 30 X-Fixatives and all but one of the Job Stones... but that is just my RNG and that can be different for many players in there

[RenegadeInferno]

I have spent all of the time in OC so far, I haven't done any outside FATEs.

I have completed 111 FATEs and 64 CEs, 175 events in total.

In that time, I have acquired:
1 x Verdigris,
1 x Azurite
2 x Malachite
2 x Realgar
2 x Orpiment
2 x Caput Mortuum

That's a total of 10 Demiatma so far.

The drop rate here for me, based on the above is 17.5%.

That's not a bad drop rate at all, in my opinion.
I'm not actively grinding for the relic, it's a passive grind whilst I level the Phantom jobs.

[Kozh]

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Imagine playing for 10 hours nearly every day just grinding fates lol. Maybe this is why you feel frustrated. Do like 2-3 hours per day, you won't burnout that fast.

30 hours in OC and not a single atma? Mhm 'kay.

[Natix26]

Drop rates are fine. I got over 7 of each just levelling to 20 and my jobs.

No they are not fine, you'r an exception, I get less than the half required will having lvl 20 and 5 mastered phantom jobs

[Arkdra]

I finished my relic in a little under 20 hours, so it was 7 hours shorter than it took me to do the original atmas when they launched and well under the time most other relic steps took when they were new too.

[Jestigeress]

Imagine playing for 10 hours nearly every day just grinding fates lol. Maybe this is why you feel frustrated. Do like 2-3 hours per day, you won't burnout that fast.

30 hours in OC and not a single atma? Mhm 'kay.

I wondered when I get your questionable response, welcome to the thread...
Yes 30 hours and I should be at Knowledge Level 20 but I decided to self rez a bit to often early on and ended only at 9 during the start.

I also see you Like making a bunch of unfounded assumptions and are fairly condescending, interesting...
I never said I was burned out , or really frustrated My only real complaint about the relic was inconsistent RNG of the relic drops
Were in contrast I have had high drops in the Phantom Job Stones (45% average drop chance from CE), Aether Spun Gold (55% average drop chance from CE and chests), and even X-Fixative (100% Drop chance from Silver chests).

Now I am not saying all that to boast or anything of that nature just pointing out its inconsistency of the RNG being used.

[Kozh]

I wondered when I get your questionable response, welcome to the thread...
Yes 30 hours and I should be at Knowledge Level 20 but I decided to self rez a bit to often early on and ended only at 9 during the start.

I also see you Like making a bunch of unfounded assumptions and are fairly condescending, interesting...
I never said I was burned out , or really frustrated My only real complaint about the relic was inconsistent RNG of the relic drops
Were in contrast I have had high drops in the Phantom Job Stones (45% average drop chance from CE), Aether Spun Gold (55% average drop chance from CE and chests), and even X-Fixative (100% Drop chance from Silver chests).

Now I am not saying all that to boast or anything of that nature just pointing out its inconsistency of the RNG being used.

Better than you who keep using "disingenuous" when arguing with people. You're basically invalidating everyone you disagree with. Guess who's the condescending now?

Also, if you want to make shit up, at least make it more believable.

[Valence]

You didn't spend 100 hours in South Horn and just getting 1, that is misinformation.

It's mathematically possible. Probable? I'll let you do the precise math and set your thresholds I guess.

[Granyala]

Frankly put: this is shitty and lazy game design.
Throwing unmitigated RNG at things and just telling unlucky players to: "suck it up, buttercup" is asinine and should not exist in a videogame we play for FUN and ENTERTAINMENT in our sparse free time.

At the very least, there should be a pity / bad-luck protection system that basically caps the maximum player effort needed at an amount determined by the Developers.

If someone really spent 7hrs of doing FATEs w/o a drop (this is possible, I just spent 3 hours and got one lousy drop, guess I should consider myself lucky) then this content is BROKEN. Extrapolating: 3*18 = 54hr or 2.25 DAYS of continuous grind of the most braindead content this game has to offer while watching movies on the side. All that for a lame item level you will instantly replace with the tome weapon anyway. Talk about not respecting a player's time investment.

On top of that, they force us to use level 100 jobs inside the new map, so you can't even level other jobs while farming these braindead FATEs/CE's.

TL,DR: if you value your time, wait till they nerf this nonsense when they release later relic steps.

[CCheshire]

TBH, my worst streak was approx 4 hours in OC and outside in DT area for atma, but I did it over a few days, so I just went to bed and hoped for a better tomorrow.

Now I'm finished, I wouldn't mind if they buffed the atma rates everywhere for everyone else, still working on it now, or new players in the future to help them out.