Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Masekase_Hurricane]

you are not supposed to farm fates for them, go to OC and only if you are missing one or two get the rest from fates.
I would honestly say the droprate inside oC is ... 'fine' but the problem is that they are zone specific drops, so i got 12 orange and only one purple atma. at the end

if you still need bicolored gemstones, thats also a good oportunity for farm these and do the relic.

Instead of following the train round, kill the mobs and spawn the fates/CE in the area you need. We was killing 4-5 of 1 mob then moving on to the next and they were spawning fast in that area. https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...nt:_South_Horn mobs at the bottom

[Masekase_Hurricane]

What is ridiculous is that virdigris has only one fate, so far drop rate is not bad around 20% but if you consider the probability of a probabilty since you can't exchange the surplus stones for what you need, i'd say in the end to get 3 of each is pretty sad and repetitive grind, that 20% becomes less than 5% to get what you actually miss, even by doing everything that spawn in the map.

It has 3 FATES Sworn to soil , A delicate Balance, Pleading Pots and from Calamity Bound CE.

[Miguel85NYC]

Grow a back bone and just get it done.. I got mine done in no time and I have a job

[NoctotheBard]

Got 3 demiatma from each of 5 of the 6 zones so far. But for some reason Shaaloani has taken it upon itself to be the bane of my existence. Have now done 76 straight fates there (ranking the zone up from absolute zero to max rank 4 - plus an additional 10 fates on top of that) - and not a single demiatma from that zone had dropped for me. So when people say it's just a case of mathematical probability and the more you do, the likelier it is you'll get them - I can honestly respond with "Meh - kinda nope."

[Jestigeress]

What a surprise you pushing your false narrative again without acknowledging all the facts like in this case it is the fact of random chance. Where you yourself claim to have a 20% drop rate though when we look at thread you made https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Farming-Method

Its shows your drop rates per different OC CE/Fates from as low as 4.37% to as high as 25% based on Limited sample data. For me for example in 100+ hours I have 1 Demiatma, with a mixture in Both OC and open world but on other hand i have 45 Aether Spun Gold and 27 X-Fixatives. it just proves how inconsistantly bad the RNG is on this content. No you have to be disingenuous with you claims from insufficient sample data!

Added info: I got my sole drop on open World DT fate so based on that singular drop I would have to say open world will be less then 1% and for OC it would be 0%. It also is a bit unusual how the drops occur were in open world if you group up or if any others are at the same fate your chances drop even more. You can say that might be RNG or there maybe an underlined, issue for how the drops are happening in DT Fates. Same could be said for OC drops and chest rewards while my Atma drops have been awful, but I have gotten very lucky with the Phantom Job stones (I only need 1 more to have all those Job stones), and the gear upgrade drops were as others are not as lucky.

[Mika_Zahard]

Got 3 demiatma from each of 5 of the 6 zones so far. But for some reason Shaaloani has taken it upon itself to be the bane of my existence. Have now done 76 straight fates there (ranking the zone up from absolute zero to max rank 4 - plus an additional 10 fates on top of that) - and not a single demiatma from that zone had dropped for me. So when people say it's just a case of mathematical probability and the more you do, the likelier it is you'll get them - I can honestly respond with "Meh - kinda nope."

It took me about 70 fates to get 2 of the Koakazuma atmas, and 80 for the 2 yellow ones (Living memories). It goes without saying that, i got both areas maxed thanks to fates. I went through several CEs and Fates on OC to get barely anything from those two, while i had 4-5 of the other candies.

[Jestigeress]

Grow a back bone and just get it done.. I got mine done in no time and I have a job

While you got yours done so efficiently (Or so you claim), and despite your disingenuous comment others will have to contend with the bad RNG and not be so Lucky.

[Jeeqbit]

What a surprise you pushing your false narrative again

I assume you're referring to me. It's not a false narrative. It's beyond doubt now. Even linear regression supports that the drop rates are higher than you believe - because I put the amount of FATEs/CEs for each drop in an excel table to see.

For me for example in 100+ hours I have 1 Demiatma, with a mixture in Both OC and open world

I struggle to believe that you have spent 100 hours in there and only got 1 Atma, unless you didn't do much in there or only did FATEs. I literally get an Atma every 3-5 CEs, in most cases, every single day I'm in there. I don't think any of the other responders in that post said they only got 1, and usually that was in way less time than you've spent. And a lot of the comments agreed the drops were better from CEs.

[Jestigeress]

I assume you're referring to me. It's not a false narrative. It's beyond doubt now. Even linear regression supports that the drop rates are higher than you believe - because I put the amount of FATEs/CEs for each drop in an excel table to see.

I struggle to believe that you have spent 100 hours in there and only got 1 Atma, unless you didn't do much in there or only did FATEs. I literally get an Atma every 3-5 CEs, in most cases, every single day I'm in there. I don't think any of the other responders in that post said they only got 1, and usually that was in way less time than you've spent. And a lot of the comments agreed the drops were better from CEs.

Just because you have ignorance over the matter you continue to be disingenuous with your claims and often you let your own prejudiced bias cloud your judgement. Which is reflective in limited sample data which isn't enough to support the conclusion that demiatma's are at 20% drop rate it only supports the fact that those with better rng will have a drop rate above 5%-20%... Just because you have better luck in Atma drops means only that you have better Luck on those drops. Plain truth it isn't enough to support your conclusion. It's also deceptive and ignorant to think that what the Lucky drops you a few others have gotten is reflective of what the actual stats of the drops are, because again it is a limited sample size.

You may disagree with the experiences i have had which is also reflective in the data you collected which still doesn't account for outliers that have said they are not getting the same drops as you. It is very deceptive to ignore those with lower drops to just support your false claim. All that is reflective of is your bad science and weak hypothesis.

[Themarvin]

Just because you have ignorance over the matter you continue to be disingenuous with your claims and often you let your own prejudiced bias cloud your judgement. Which is reflective in limited sample data which isn't enough to support the conclusion that demiatma's are at 20% drop rate it only supports the fact that those with better rng will have a drop rate above 5%-20%... Just because you have better luck in Atma drops means only that you have better Luck on those drops. Plain truth it isn't enough to support your conclusion. It's also deceptive and ignorant to think that what the Lucky drops you a few others have gotten is reflective of what the actual stats of the drops are, because again it is a limited sample size.

You may disagree with the experiences i have had which is also reflective in the data you collected which still doesn't account for outliers that have said they are not getting the same drops as you. It is very deceptive to ignore those with lower drops to just support your false claim. All that is reflective of is your bad science and weak hypothesis.

You didn't spend 100 hours in South Horn and just getting 1, that is misinformation.