Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[TaleraRistain]

I've done about a lockout a night over the past 3 nights after raids and I've gotten at least one of 5 types of demiatma and a couple I have 2 of each. That's just from randomly running around doing CEs and such. So it seems the drop rate inside OC might be okay for gradually doing this step over time.

I haven't tried fates outside. If they're low, then that may be something that needs to be adjusted because if they truly want to say there are two paths, the paths should be equal in time expenditure to accomplish the same objective.

[tank2fish]

My luck may just be incredibly bad, but I did not touch fates before the relic quest came out. I ground out every FATE needed for Shared FATES in Kozama'uka, and I received ZERO demiatmas from start to finish. That's hours and hours of just fates and waiting for fates to spawn and nothing else. The drop rates genuinely need some sort of pity system, as this kind of drop rate is unfathomably bad.

[Voidmage]

its funny how people who got lucky are like 'nah drop rates are fine. everything is alright'.

shows once more how egocentric quite a few people in this game are

To this day I haven’t finished my first relic and think it’s fine as it is.

Saying those who are ok with the rng are egocentric is seriously pathetic.
I think you guys can be better than this.

I can’t fault anyone for being upset if they’ve spent that same amount of time and got nothing. I’ll wait until I see the upgrades before I continue anyway though. If the upgrades don’t fit my aesthetic better than the endwalker ones I’ll probably skip entirely.

It’s completely fine to be upset when you have extremely bad luck.
It’s the TONE of the criticism that’s starting to get annoying for some of us.
Even if you don’t get an atma you didn’t waste your time because you may have gotten a phantom job drop or leveled your job or got currency you can exchange for a reward.
In that fashion the ARR ones were far more of a “waste” because you didn’t get anything else.

[Valence]

You all do realise you only need 3 of each. Not 3 of each per weapon. There is no rush, just level your jobs and you will get them without even looking for them. The weapon is of no use anyway as it's only 245. There is nothing you need the relic for. Just have fun and enjoy the game instead of always asking for handouts.

If anything the drop rate is far too high for a one of mechanic.

Beyond being sick of being strawmaned to death with vapid "stop asking for handouts" because this is just misconstruing on purpose what people are complaining about at this point, this also touches to a second problem that I'm totally ready to admit, which is that if you like OC and its content, then it makes things incredibly less annoying to deal with I assume. I hate OC and what I have to do for those relics. I'm lvl 20 and still lacking half of my candies. I don't give a fuck about leveling my phantom jobs by running everywhere on the map, hoping the fates won't die before I reach them, or doing the same DDR encounters again and again and again until I gouge my eyes out. I don't need my phantom jobs because I don't care about forked tower either (I would have if it was CLL or Dalriada, but then again, it would have been fine content gated behind shitty content like in Bozja).

But the silver lining is that there is indeed only a need for the first step, which I think is actually a fine system. You work on it, then you're free to go for the other weapons without doing it all over again. I just wish that first step allowed me to actually do things I enjoy.

I think you guys can be better than this.

Yeah I wonder why some people replied in kind (not saying they were right doing it though) when it's been a barrage of "you guys just want everything handed to you". Speak about tone and being better than this...

[Valence]

I've done about a lockout a night over the past 3 nights after raids and I've gotten at least one of 5 types of demiatma and a couple I have 2 of each. That's just from randomly running around doing CEs and such. So it seems the drop rate inside OC might be okay for gradually doing this step over time.

I haven't tried fates outside. If they're low, then that may be something that needs to be adjusted because if they truly want to say there are two paths, the paths should be equal in time expenditure to accomplish the same objective.

Choosing between dull fates and even duller fates isn't two paths though.

[Rock-Fist-Lee]

I started finding it difficult to get the Atma I needed in the isle when I had two types of Atma left to get, 3 of one type that never dropped and two of another type, seeing people recommend I do the fates in the dawntrail zones, I spent all of today doing fates in the zones corresponding to what I needed and made 2400 bi-color gems and not one atma dropped. Plenty of people in the parties i was in were saying they got them >_< ;_;

[FuturePastNow]

I got 8 that I needed on day 1 (plus some duplicates), 8 more (plus some dupes) on day 2, and then on day 3 I played for over 12 hours before getting the last two I needed. I did focus only on the region I needed on the last day. I did ~120 CEs over three days, and lots of FATEs, but only a couple of the atmas came from those. It's frustrating to go a long time without getting a drop, but overall the drop rate seems fine. It's a one time step, just lock in and do it.

Edit: 25% for CEs feels correct to me.

[DanicaCeleste]

I just spent 7 hours in Kozama'uka and i'm still 0/3 atma. This IS unacceptable. I did some OC over the last few days and in around 15 hours got 2 atma so I went to DT fates. Some areas I got them within 4 hours, some 6 but to get 0 after 7 hours of continuous grind is absolutely ridiculous.

We're not all kids with no jobs that have hours and hours and hours of free time. I want to actually DO stuff on the weekend and not grind for 10+ hours to get a single drop. I understand that I am one of those who have been incredibly unlucky, but honestly it shouldn't be like this. This is actually worse than ARR.

"BUt YoU oNLy NeED tO dO iT oNCe" - SURE, that's great! But in a game where there is already a LOT to do for the average player, spending a literal DAY grinding for something that doesn't even drop once is just not right.
It's this type of 'grind' that causes people to burnout and quit the game or step away for a while. They get the relic weapon and then what? They go and play another game for a while to chill out.

Not to mention, this is not a free-to-play game, we pay a monthly sub and drawing out 'content' with dull asf fate grinding from hours to days is not CONTENT.

"tHEn ThIS cONtEnT MAYbe Isn'T FoR YoU" - get in the bin. Having a 0.05% droprate does NOT mean content is meant for some and not others. I guess working people can't enjoy this content then because they have lives, see how stupid that sounds?

[Alyx-Greywind]

"tHEn ThIS cONtEnT MAYbe Isn'T FoR YoU" - get in the bin. Having a 0.05% droprate does NOT mean content is meant for some and not others. I guess working people can't enjoy this content then because they have lives, see how stupid that sounds?

These are the same people who were telling other players to get out of their game when Dawntrail released. Not point in arguing with them sadly.