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  1. #1
    Player
    Ajisaii's Avatar
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    Ajisai Phylla
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    Sophia
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    mum said it's my turn to complain about the relic weapon
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    Asako Natsume
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 100
    You all do realise you only need 3 of each. Not 3 of each per weapon. There is no rush, just level your jobs and you will get them without even looking for them. The weapon is of no use anyway as it's only 245. There is nothing you need the relic for. Just have fun and enjoy the game instead of always asking for handouts.

    If anything the drop rate is far too high for a one of mechanic.
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    Ryutaro Mori
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    Omega
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Whether or not the step is fast or slow, it's clear that people do not enjoy the RNG element. People don't like having bad luck and they would rather do x content x amount of times and be guaranteed the things they need to progress, even if it is grindy, instead of leaving it up to chance and luck.
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    Reneyus Stormtreader
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    Cerberus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    Whether or not the step is fast or slow, it's clear that people do not enjoy the RNG element. People don't like having bad luck and they would rather do x content x amount of times and be guaranteed the things they need to progress, even if it is grindy, instead of leaving it up to chance and luck.
    After the Atma step you do get measurable guaranteed progress to your next weapon.
    You can get X of 1500 tomestones from doing stuff they do normally or inside OC.
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    its funny how people who got lucky are like 'nah drop rates are fine. everything is alright'.

    shows once more how egocentric quite a few people in this game are
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    without fun jobs none of the content is fun

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    Daki Makura
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    Sophia
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    its funny how people who got lucky are like 'nah drop rates are fine. everything is alright'.

    shows once more how egocentric quite a few people in this game are
    I think the people being "egocentric" are the ones already complaining about a one time grind that have just been unlucky tbh.

    Are ppl also unaware that you can target specific atmas from Tural fates? You can effectively remove half of the rng element in needing specific CE's in Occult Cresent for each atma
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    its funny how people who got lucky are like 'nah drop rates are fine. everything is alright'.
    If I get 3 I would say it's just unusual luck, but when I've now got 9 from 38 CEs over a few days it seems pretty consistently a good source of Atma. It's not about ego it's about the fact that, consistently, every single day, the RNG does not feel as bad as it does with minions in dungeons which virtually never drop.
    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    I thought this is large scale. Which means. It is supposed to be for most people.
    Not necessarily. It's large scale, but that doesn't mean it's for everyone. Just for a lot of people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyx-Greywind View Post
    These are the same people who were telling other players to get out of their game when Dawntrail released.
    In case you mean me, I've never once said that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jestigeress View Post
    No that again is another disingenuous statement from you as usual!
    100% of my responses are honest and genuine.
    The Only complaint is with the RNG of demiatma drop rates, and because of that inconsistency that they have an issue with it.
    Then the argument becomes "it's only been a few days; you have a few months before the next relic step and you will get other things in the process such as Knowledge, Phantom Levels, Coins, Gear or Bicolor Vouchers, and by the time you've done all that you will definitely have plenty of Atma".
    they have never really a bad luck protection in this game
    Minion/mount bad luck = buy it from market board, Extreme mount bad luck = buy it for 50-99 totems, Savage bad luck = unsync it later when it's easy, Triple Triad RNG = unsync it later when it's quick/easy, fight droprates were nerfed eventually, FATE bad luck = adjust mindset that it will take more than the first few days to get through the content
    Quote Originally Posted by DanicaCeleste View Post
    We're not all kids with no jobs that have hours and hours and hours of free time.
    Despite having hours and hours, I've only ever done this content at the pace a busy person would: a single 3-hour session, once or twice a week. And the RNG has never been a problem despite this. Maybe because of this. Because I play it so casually, that I do not burn myself out like everyone that complains is doing, who wants to get it all done in the first few days. Maybe if you don't feel like you have to do it all in the first few days then you won't feel this way.
    I want to actually DO stuff on the weekend and not grind for 10+ hours to get a single drop.
    Then I propose grinding for just 1 or 2 hours a week - regardless of if you get a drop. Then it's super casual and chill and you don't go for too long.
    I guess working people can't enjoy this content then because they have lives, see how stupid that sounds?
    It's quite nice, as a busy person, to log into the game and just play it for an hour or two and make progress towards something.

    The problem comes when a busy person acts like someone who is not busy and spends 10 hours getting burned out on it because they are determined to do it all day1.
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  8. #8
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    Jestigeress's Avatar
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    Wesley Redclaw
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    If I get 3 I would say it's just unusual luck, but when I've now got 9 from 38 CEs over a few days it seems pretty consistently a good source of Atma. It's not about ego it's about the fact that, consistently, every single day, the RNG does not feel as bad as it does with minions in dungeons which virtually never drop.
    Not necessarily. It's large scale, but that doesn't mean it's for everyone. Just for a lot of people.
    In case you mean me, I've never once said that.
    100% of my responses are honest and genuine.
    Then the argument becomes "it's only been a few days; you have a few months before the next relic step and you will get other things in the process such as Knowledge, Phantom Levels, Coins, Gear or Bicolor Vouchers, and by the time you've done all that you will definitely have plenty of Atma".
    Minion/mount bad luck = buy it from market board, Extreme mount bad luck = buy it for 50-99 totems, Savage bad luck = unsync it later when it's easy, Triple Triad RNG = unsync it later when it's quick/easy, fight droprates were nerfed eventually, FATE bad luck = adjust mindset that it will take more than the first few days to get through the content
    Despite having hours and hours, I've only ever done this content at the pace a busy person would: a single 3-hour session, once or twice a week. And the RNG has never been a problem despite this. Maybe because of this. Because I play it so casually, that I do not burn myself out like everyone that complains is doing, who wants to get it all done in the first few days. Maybe if you don't feel like you have to do it all in the first few days then you won't feel this way.
    Then I propose grinding for just 1 or 2 hours a week - regardless of if you get a drop. Then it's super casual and chill and you don't go for too long.
    It's quite nice, as a busy person, to log into the game and just play it for an hour or two and make progress towards something.

    The problem comes when a busy person acts like someone who is not busy and spends 10 hours getting burned out on it because they are determined to do it all day1.
    Try again Sport that is you being disingenuous with your responses, mainly to push the false narrative that folks are complaining about ether OC or the Relic Grind, or to get it done quick The facts are no one is complaining about any of that the only complaints are over the RNG of the drop rates of the Demiatma.
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    Last edited by Jestigeress; 06-02-2025 at 02:21 AM. Reason: to adhere to TOS

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    Rodney Lazardin
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    Kraken
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I got 3 in six hours but it seems I’ve been lucky, I can’t fault anyone for being upset if they’ve spent that same amount of time and got nothing. I’ll wait until I see the upgrades before I continue anyway though. If the upgrades don’t fit my aesthetic better than the endwalker ones I’ll probably skip entirely.
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Kujata
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    its funny how people who got lucky are like 'nah drop rates are fine. everything is alright'.

    shows once more how egocentric quite a few people in this game are
    It's funny how those who complained the most actually don't have that much of a bad luck, turns out. Considering it's not even a week since 7.25 drop and they are already done with atmas step.

    Who would've thought that "bad luck" stings when you no-life the content /s

    This is the same shit as when bozja requires rng drop as well and people are so quick to yell and complained. While in fact most people don't have that much problem with it and can get it done fairly quickly.

    Y'all saying you want it to be no-rng long grind, I bet if they give us that, people will still complain as it can't be done day one.
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