Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Interitum]

I got 3 in six hours but it seems I’ve been lucky, I can’t fault anyone for being upset if they’ve spent that same amount of time and got nothing. I’ll wait until I see the upgrades before I continue anyway though. If the upgrades don’t fit my aesthetic better than the endwalker ones I’ll probably skip entirely.

[Kozh]

its funny how people who got lucky are like 'nah drop rates are fine. everything is alright'.

shows once more how egocentric quite a few people in this game are

It's funny how those who complained the most actually don't have that much of a bad luck, turns out. Considering it's not even a week since 7.25 drop and they are already done with atmas step.

Who would've thought that "bad luck" stings when you no-life the content /s

This is the same shit as when bozja requires rng drop as well and people are so quick to yell and complained. While in fact most people don't have that much problem with it and can get it done fairly quickly.

Y'all saying you want it to be no-rng long grind, I bet if they give us that, people will still complain as it can't be done day one.

[TaleraRistain]

I've done about a lockout a night over the past 3 nights after raids and I've gotten at least one of 5 types of demiatma and a couple I have 2 of each. That's just from randomly running around doing CEs and such. So it seems the drop rate inside OC might be okay for gradually doing this step over time.

I haven't tried fates outside. If they're low, then that may be something that needs to be adjusted because if they truly want to say there are two paths, the paths should be equal in time expenditure to accomplish the same objective.

[Voidmage]

its funny how people who got lucky are like 'nah drop rates are fine. everything is alright'.

shows once more how egocentric quite a few people in this game are

To this day I haven’t finished my first relic and think it’s fine as it is.

Saying those who are ok with the rng are egocentric is seriously pathetic.
I think you guys can be better than this.

I can’t fault anyone for being upset if they’ve spent that same amount of time and got nothing. I’ll wait until I see the upgrades before I continue anyway though. If the upgrades don’t fit my aesthetic better than the endwalker ones I’ll probably skip entirely.

It’s completely fine to be upset when you have extremely bad luck.
It’s the TONE of the criticism that’s starting to get annoying for some of us.
Even if you don’t get an atma you didn’t waste your time because you may have gotten a phantom job drop or leveled your job or got currency you can exchange for a reward.
In that fashion the ARR ones were far more of a “waste” because you didn’t get anything else.

[Dakimakura]

its funny how people who got lucky are like 'nah drop rates are fine. everything is alright'.

shows once more how egocentric quite a few people in this game are

I think the people being "egocentric" are the ones already complaining about a one time grind that have just been unlucky tbh.

Are ppl also unaware that you can target specific atmas from Tural fates? You can effectively remove half of the rng element in needing specific CE's in Occult Cresent for each atma

[Valence]

The drop rate is about 25% from CEs, so I recommend those.

I've got 8 Atma from 34 CEs, which is pretty good considering CEs spawning constantly. The drop rate probably isn't very good from FATEs, considering I've got 0 from 12 FATEs.

I don't know where you got those numbers but that's definitely not what has happened to me, because I have like 80 CEs so that would mean I should already have at least 20 of those and that's without counting fates.
But heh I don't know, maybe I'm INCREDIBLY unlucky.

The content isn't for everyone. It was meant for people who want a grind, and honestly, I haven't found the relic grind to be much so far even, since it's just a one-time grind unlike the old Atma grind from ARR. I will almost certainly be done by the time my phantom jobs, knowledge level, gear and coin grinds are done, and the atma will just be passively gained by doing that, at the current rate.

That's easy to say when you're not the one that drew the short straw, judging by your crazy numbers.
Content has problems? Just wave it away by telling people off the content because it obviously means that it's not designed for them, am I right?

[Valence]

You all do realise you only need 3 of each. Not 3 of each per weapon. There is no rush, just level your jobs and you will get them without even looking for them. The weapon is of no use anyway as it's only 245. There is nothing you need the relic for. Just have fun and enjoy the game instead of always asking for handouts.

If anything the drop rate is far too high for a one of mechanic.

Beyond being sick of being strawmaned to death with vapid "stop asking for handouts" because this is just misconstruing on purpose what people are complaining about at this point, this also touches to a second problem that I'm totally ready to admit, which is that if you like OC and its content, then it makes things incredibly less annoying to deal with I assume. I hate OC and what I have to do for those relics. I'm lvl 20 and still lacking half of my candies. I don't give a fuck about leveling my phantom jobs by running everywhere on the map, hoping the fates won't die before I reach them, or doing the same DDR encounters again and again and again until I gouge my eyes out. I don't need my phantom jobs because I don't care about forked tower either (I would have if it was CLL or Dalriada, but then again, it would have been fine content gated behind shitty content like in Bozja).

But the silver lining is that there is indeed only a need for the first step, which I think is actually a fine system. You work on it, then you're free to go for the other weapons without doing it all over again. I just wish that first step allowed me to actually do things I enjoy.

I think you guys can be better than this.

Yeah I wonder why some people replied in kind (not saying they were right doing it though) when it's been a barrage of "you guys just want everything handed to you". Speak about tone and being better than this...

[Jestigeress]

The drop rate is about 25% from CEs, so I recommend those.

I've got 8 Atma from 34 CEs, which is pretty good considering CEs spawning constantly. The drop rate probably isn't very good from FATEs, considering I've got 0 from 12 FATEs.

NO that is you being disingenuous with your responses as usual. The fact is you either Lying or you you have been extremely lucky with drops! Truth is the RNG both in and out CE can be kind of bad and they have never really a bad luck protection in this game eventually they will up the drop rate to future proof the content so its easier to be done solo on the relics.

[Valence]

I've done about a lockout a night over the past 3 nights after raids and I've gotten at least one of 5 types of demiatma and a couple I have 2 of each. That's just from randomly running around doing CEs and such. So it seems the drop rate inside OC might be okay for gradually doing this step over time.

I haven't tried fates outside. If they're low, then that may be something that needs to be adjusted because if they truly want to say there are two paths, the paths should be equal in time expenditure to accomplish the same objective.

Choosing between dull fates and even duller fates isn't two paths though.

[Jestigeress]

The content isn't for everyone. It was meant for people who want a grind, and honestly, I haven't found the relic grind to be much so far even, since it's just a one-time grind unlike the old Atma grind from ARR. I will almost certainly be done by the time my phantom jobs, knowledge level, gear and coin grinds are done, and the atma will just be passively gained by doing that, at the current rate.

No that again is another disingenuous statement from you as usual! No one said they are upset at the grind or OC in fact most feedback around OC is overwhelmingly Positive. The Only complaint is with the RNG of demiatma drop rates, and because of that inconsistency that they have an issue with it.