Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Altina_Orion]

im not even trying for relics this time around, this game can't get me to stay entertained to do that grind for something that ends up meaningless except for glamour

At the end of the expansion and early game next expansion it's the best weapon. It's not just glamour.

[CCheshire]

So a few weeks ago, I did the DT Fate farm, and all of them died fairly fast, even if I had 2-3 others in my party during early morning and mid-day times. Also, I actually dislike fates, so I never do them, so I don't have a shared fate, so I just traded extra bi-colors into lamps, which I discarded later. The main reason I did them was because I knew certain colors were in odd zones that rarely had CE and DT fates would 100% give me the right color, even if it was boring.

FWIW: I feel like you're still going to waste time either way in OC (dupes) vs DT Fates (boring) since there's no way you can make progress in the quest w/o collecting all the atma. For example, nothing is stopping me from returning to OC now that I've almost done all the relics from tome dailies, and I can still make progress on PT jobs.

[Derelicta]

In the 5 or more hours ive been in OC, ive gotten 5/18 atma, the drop rate is so below acceptable its physically painful, the drop rate is an insult and an immense disrespect to my time

[Supersnow845]

In the 5 or more hours ive been in OC, ive gotten 5/18 atma, the drop rate is so below acceptable its physically painful, the drop rate is an insult and an immense disrespect to my time

This grind is designed to last to 7.35 at the absolute earliest if we get a patch by patch relic update which is in October and you are unhappy that you are nearly 1/3 of the way there in 5 hours?

[SophiaDL]

This grind is designed to last to 7.35 at the absolute earliest if we get a patch by patch relic update which is in October and you are unhappy that you are nearly 1/3 of the way there in 5 hours?

Stretching a boring grind =/ fun

[Supersnow845]

Stretching a boring grind =/ fun

Square should have used more steps and more varied steps you won’t hear me complaining

But acting like 5 hours to do 1/3 of a grind designed to last 4 months is completely unrealistically excessive is stretching it

Like based on achievement points a good 20-30% of the playerbase is already passively collecting relics from tomestones and we aren’t even a month into the 4 months it’s supposed to last for

[Barwara]

I'm done with the demiatma step. Took 3 weeks? Quite OK drop rate in the end. Collected the last two pieces I needed outside of OC. Didn't even manage to level to 20 in OC so I guess I'll have to go back eventually.

[CCheshire]

Honestly, I've just finished my last alt job relic, so I guess I'll hope the next few steps will be out in several months, sigh.

[Supersnow845]

Genuinely in the nicest way possible what are you doing that it takes you FOUR days to get to knowledge level 12.

[ForsakenRoe]

How SE designed it:

Get 3 demiatmas, of which there are 6 colours, by doing FATEs and CEs in OC, or by doing FATEs in Dawntrail Zones. Each colour correlates to a part of the map in OC, or a specific Zone in the DT map.
After completing the initial quest, a vendor opens up, who sells you a new kind of Ore for 500 tomes each.
Spend 1500 tomes on 3 of the new Ore, and use the 3 Ore to buy the Relic.

How SE should have designed it (additions/changes in bold):

Get 3 demiatmas, of which there are 6 colours, by doing FATEs and CEs in OC, or by doing FATEs in Dawntrail Zones. Each colour correlates to a part of the map in OC, or a specific Zone in the DT map.
Once you have done that, you buy the Relic by giving Gerolt another set of 1 of each of the 6 demiatmas.
Wow, now any duplicates you happen to get, you can use on other relics instead of them being useless after the initial quest!

After completing the initial quest, a vendor opens up, who sells you the demiatma types for 250 tomes each. (This is instead of the 3 ores, but results in the same overall tome cost of 1500 tomes per Relic)
Wow, now if you have a ton of one kind of Demiatma, and not enough of another type, you can use the vendor and tomes as 'bad luck protection' and target-buy the one you have less of, to re-equalize your demiatma count!
Additionally, getting duplicate Demiatmas while farming out in OC stops feeling like 'damn my RNG is in all the wrong places' and starts feeling like 'hell yeh I just saved 250 tomes!!!'

Upon starting the 'get Gerolt his materials' quest, Bicolor Gemstone vendors in each Dawntrail Zone start offering the Zone's Demiatma type upon reaching Rank 3 for the Zone (cost: 250 Gems)
Wow, now if you are farming in the DT zones for the Demiatmas, you have a form of 'bad luck protection'! It also gives players more reason to grind out the Shared FATE system (beyond the current reward structure it has).
Additionally, because you can earn Bicolor Gemstones from as low as 70ish (via SHB FATEs), players might take the opportunity to level alt Jobs, even Jobs that aren't in the Dawntrail level bracket!


The amount of missed opportunities to revitalize older content is staggering. SE's perception of 'keep old content relevant' seems to be 'tie it to tomes, that way people will do roulettes', but there's more to the game than Instances.

Heck, instead of 'Dawntrail Zones', we've now got six expansions: ARR, HW, SB, SHB, EW, DT. Why did they not have each of the Demiatmas be linked to an expansion (blue = HW, red = SB, purple = SHB, etc), and have FATEs in EVERY zone be revitalized, instead of having everyone cram into Shaaloani like sardines? That way, we'd also cause a revitalization of the boss FATEs, like The Eyes Have It in Coerthas Central, the Tarrasque one in Forelands, the FATE chains that grant achievements in SHB, allowing newer players a chance to get assistance with getting those achievements/rewards in a more organic way