Please Stop Genderlocking Gear

[SophiaDL]

If democracy leads to oppression and bigotry, dictates who I love and how I live in a way that effects me and people I care about, I will oppose Democracy.

Basic human rights need to be protected at all cost and should not be used as things to be voted on or debated on, It's extreme to think we can just vote away human rights in my opinion.

So in order to avoid the alleged oppression of your own community, you want to oppress a different community.

That honestly doesnt sound very healthy to me.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

No wonder fashion is boring I'm hoping occult gear is to your liking then it's gender neutral just the way you like it.

Wooow that’s cool. Now can I wear both version on single character now?

Rhetoric aside, I shall repeat: I want players to have the choice to wear both variants (looking at you neo ishgardian set grrr…). If one keeps interpreting that request as “So you want 1 unisex gear!”, I honestly start to think misconstruing ideas eloquently to be a quality they’re specifically looking for when they hire whoever’s in charge of parsing players’ feedbacks.

EDIT: they can probably extend players’ stay in the content since now they have to grind for another set if that’s what they’re into. Hey! More reason to stay in the content!

[Rithy255]

So in order to avoid the alleged oppression of your own community, you want to oppress a different community.

That honestly doesnt sound very healthy to me.

I didn't even say that but you sure do love assuming.

My take is that Democracy is usually better then alternative of no one having a voice in a dictatorship, democracy is usually a good thing but it's not fool proof it's proven to be unreliable at always delivering positive.

The problem is that a lot of the population (a majority of them) have no investment in my rights or anyone elses who maybe LGBT, so the fact that we have so much misinformation and harmful opinions spreading, more so then ever that can lead to rights being taken away (and has done), yes I'd be against people voting upon basic things such as loving someone of the same gender or expressing yourself.

Is it oppression to be against peoples rights to vote against peoples freedoms? would it be correct to discriminate on people based on race, gender, orientation because 51% of the population agrees with that? I don't think that's "oppression" personally but I don't think you even know what oppression is you probably assume seeing a man in a pink cute outfit oppresses you, so I don't really think you understand half the things you talk about, you just want to seem cool and edgy most likely.

[EdenElsewhere]

That's really not my problem. I'm not here to play someone personalize ff14 game. Gender locked is nice for fashion reasons. Yet making tons of gender neutral gear leaves boring ideas. My personal take keep gender locked or make a button to toggle fashion between male female.

Outside of dancer fashion we have been at some of the highest amount of gender neutral items in the game with Dawntrail. And excluding the Yuweyawata pants debacle, I think this has probably some of the best designed gear since Shadowbringers.

You don't need a gender lock to make fashion good. You need good designers to step up.

Not to mention, I know PLENTY of women playing female characters who want the less slutty options men get or the more dapper options.

[Evermomo]

That's really not my problem. I'm not here to play someone personalize ff14 game. Gender locked is nice for fashion reasons. Yet making tons of gender neutral gear leaves boring ideas. My personal take keep gender locked or make a button to toggle fashion between male female.

Over half of the gear items your character is wearing right now are not gender-locked. It's possible to make feminine glams and unlock them for all players. The 2b leggings are an example of this.

Toggles work by hiding or unhiding a portion of the model (like with hats and visors), so to do that, you would have to have an entire separate version of the costume constantly loaded. I think the most feasible thing to do is make feminine designs available to everyone from the start-- like they did with the rest of Lenna's set, with the chaotic gear, parts of the eden raids, crafted glams, and the previously mentioned national uniform of limsa.

[Doomed_Raven]

I'm not talking about the people with "different fashion opinions" I'm talking about the ones who are outright attacking/insulting people who aren't straight or cis. (Who keep getting their posts deleted I might add, so clearly the mods don't like their tone or input either.)

I'm not obligated to tolerate their intolerance, and I'm not the bigot for telling homophobes/transphobes to STFU and GTFO because their opinions and voting are part of why my country (USA) continues to be such an embarrassing craphole.

There's been a whole lot of intolerance from both sides in this thread (and the other similar one). Both heterophobia and homophobia, I agree none of it is ok (if people outright attack people personally for who they are, their comment should be removed as it's not about the forum topic).

No one should have to tolerate intolerance either, but wanting to outright silence people and remove their ability to vote, to circumvent democracy - would be the highest form of intolerance and a fast route to tyranny. It would be becoming what one claims they are fighting against. The great thing about free speech is everyone on this thread straight, gay, green, red, blue can be an A hole whether they want to or not, and whether they realize it or not. If they want to, others will probably point it out or ask why (or comment removed). And if someone doesn't realize they have offended someone, they can be made aware. I remember that US politician RFK Jr said his family would sit around the dinner table and with different political opinions; be able to find common ground by communicating.

Also I've never come across a single person (IRL) who has issue with who someone sleeps with or is attracted to.** Any grievances or concerns such people have often stem from their own ability to be left alone and to live peacefully, apparently without that being impeded upon. It's like a blame game of who is stepping on who's toes. **I'm not suggesting by the way that such people do not exist, they certainly will. I'm with you on that (and would defend you if someone bullied you for who you fancy). Just remember life is never so black and white as 'you' and 'them' or 'good' and 'bad', humans are too complex and with too many experiences to be categorized like this. The only people the idea of 'you' and 'them' benefits are nefarious governments and corporations.

[Evermomo]

Heterophobia! Be serious.

[Doomed_Raven]

Indeed. The comments made by Sweet Baby Inc and Red Thread Studio employees about straight people involve harm and murder. If you have not witnessed something, this doesn't mean it does not exist.

When you've watched various ideological groups from the outside, you quickly realize all humans have the capacity to be awful. Especially the groups that believe they are beyond reproach - these are the most dangerous.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I pretty much only wear more traditional outfits for my sex (M) and would never run around in a dress or whatever. I don't personally think it looks good.

But I agree with OP - anyone can put on an article of clothing and people should be able to wear whatever they want, regardless of my own preferences.

I'm mostly offended the Lix top, which finally is an outfit that is new that I'd like given I enjoy more classical attire, removes my tail so I cannot use it. It had some nice details. Oh well, I'll stay shirtless.

[Rithy255]

When you've watched various ideological groups from the outside, you quickly realize all humans have the capacity to be awful. Especially the groups that believe they are beyond reproach - these are the most dangerous.

The difference between "heterophobia" is that you are the long standing majority, the "default" theirs no threat of actual oppression and your rights being took away because your hetrosexual, theirs no countries that have made being hetrosexual illegal.

I don't really want to debate if it actually exists I'm sure theirs some people who are against straight people (for whatever reason), but to put it on the same level as homophobia is wild to me.

The fact is also certain things should never be a vote for democracy, certain guard rails need to be put in place that protects people otherwise that said democracy can lead to bad outcomes which shouldn't be the result of a voting system, if 51%+ of the people voted for slavery to return it would be a outright bad outcome despite if it was done through democracy or not, there are cases where certain things need to be protected, this includes simple things such as being able to date the same gender ect. Some things shouldn't frankly be a "debate" and shouldn't be political in the first place.