Please Stop Genderlocking Gear

[Rithy255]

When you've watched various ideological groups from the outside, you quickly realize all humans have the capacity to be awful. Especially the groups that believe they are beyond reproach - these are the most dangerous.

The difference between "heterophobia" is that you are the long standing majority, the "default" theirs no threat of actual oppression and your rights being took away because your hetrosexual, theirs no countries that have made being hetrosexual illegal.

I don't really want to debate if it actually exists I'm sure theirs some people who are against straight people (for whatever reason), but to put it on the same level as homophobia is wild to me.

The fact is also certain things should never be a vote for democracy, certain guard rails need to be put in place that protects people otherwise that said democracy can lead to bad outcomes which shouldn't be the result of a voting system, if 51%+ of the people voted for slavery to return it would be a outright bad outcome despite if it was done through democracy or not, there are cases where certain things need to be protected, this includes simple things such as being able to date the same gender ect. Some things shouldn't frankly be a "debate" and shouldn't be political in the first place.

[Doomed_Raven]

The difference between "heterophobia" is that you are the long standing majority, the "default" theirs no threat of actual oppression and your rights being took away because your hetrosexual, theirs no countries that have made being hetrosexual illegal.

I don't really want to debate if it actually exists I'm sure theirs some people who are against straight people (for whatever reason), but to put it on the same level as homophobia is wild to me.

The fact is also certain things should never be a vote for democracy, certain guard rails need to be put in place that protects people otherwise that said democracy can lead to bad outcomes which shouldn't be the result of a voting system, if 51%+ of the people voted for slavery to return it would be a outright bad outcome despite if it was done through democracy or not, there are cases where certain things need to be protected, this includes simple things such as being able to date the same gender ect. Some things shouldn't frankly be a "debate" and shouldn't be political in the first place.

Yeah I'd say hetero seems to be the default or much more accepted form of relationship in modern times (in ancient Greece and Rome, homosexuality was more openly explored from what I understand, also in the classical/renaissance period it was quite normal or accepted to some degree) I'm not sure when attitudes changed or why, but it's a shame people couldn't just be left alone to be into whoever they like. I do think if the overton window shifted enough, even hetero people could become oppressed (just as the window shifted for some reason and homosexual people ended up worse off). But I don't think that will happen as things are currently, it would have to be a huge shift in Western society. I mentioned in another thread that some people can use the word 'cis' in a bad way, and people just laughed which is how such things go downhill (you at least have to objectivity to think such things can exist). I definitely wouldn't put it on the same level as homophobia though, because as you mention, in some countries, gay people are treated horrendously or can lose their life (I don't think I can say which countries without getting this post removed).

With voting for inhumane policies, that'd be a large overton window shift, things that were once unconscionable becoming acceptable and normal in government, I think at that point is it a democracy or a failed nation? something has to have gone very wrong, or a big shift in the Countries voters and what they think. Maybe negative ideas and misinformation sown in society to make people lean towards something bad (social media and news outlets would be a big catalyst I think). That's a tricky one to deal with. In the US there's the constitution, maybe there are some more things that could be added to it. Here in the UK we have the Magna Carta (though our current PM seems to think it is toilet paper)

[itachi-otsutsuki]

There has NEVER been an institutionalized 'irrational fear' of hetersosexuals. THAT is the difference. It is WILD to me that this is even a discussion.