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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    If I deleted them myself, it would be shown as deleted by me, it got deleted by moderators, along with many other posts that aren't even from me. (including people from the opposite opinion as me)
    I almost thought you had developed a conscience. My mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermomo View Post
    I almost thought you had developed a conscience. My mistake.
    It's okay, I forgive you dont worry.

    Quote Originally Posted by EdenElsewhere View Post
    Why is that every Masc4Masc gay I run into is some of the worst people in the gay community I have run into ever?

    Anyways, the fact that you're a man who wants manly men, doesn't matter.

    You wanting things to be "normal" doesn't change any opinions on the matter that clothing is ungendered and that everyone should have access to dress the way they want to.

    Also as a gay man, you wouldn't have any of your damn rights without the crossdressers and drag queens and transwomen of stonewall so do sit down.
    Also as a gay man, you wouldn't have any of your damn rights without the crossdressers and drag queens and transwomen of stonewall so do sit down.
    My country didnt need crossdressers or drag queens for us to be accepted, we always have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    It's okay, I forgive you dont worry.





    My country didnt need crossdressers or drag queens for us to be accepted, we always have been.
    Well unfortunately I live in America, and every single person under the banner is under the sniper scope. Doesn't matter that you're the quietest lamb at the slaughter. Doesn't matter you're the most millenial greige farmhouse of a gay in existence. You're under the scope.

    So lucky you. Congratu-fucking-lations.

    But the rest of us aren't that lucky and we had earn our fucking shit. And us American gays had to rely on violence, drag queens, and transwomen. It was femme gays as much as masc gays, and everyone under the rainbow who got us where we were.
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    The conservative right wing does not care whether you are trans, a crossdresser, or a masc gay. They despise you and want to see you slave in camps regardless. Also no country accepted gays in the fairly recent past. I have no clue what you're smoking there. You're completely discrediting the civil rights movements that gave you your rights as a gay man. I bet half your country disagrees with your 'identity' even now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi-otsutsuki View Post
    The conservative right wing does not care whether you are trans, a crossdresser, or a masc gay. They despise you and want to see you slave in camps regardless. Also no country accepted gays in the fairly recent past. I have no clue what you're smoking there. You're completely discrediting the civil rights movements that gave you your rights as a gay man. I bet half your country disagrees with your 'identity' even now.
    They despise you and want to see you slave in camps regardless
    I've watched a lot of news from the US and EU both, pretty much on the daily, hell I've even watched more republican and democrat channels alike, I have never heard of this, care to provide a source ?

    Also no country accepted gays in the fairly recent past
    ?

    Several countries are widely recognized as being accepting and LGBTQ-friendly. In 2025, Iceland, Norway, the Netherlands, Sweden, and Canada consistently rank among the top for LGBTQ+ rights and social acceptance. These countries often have strong legal protections, including same-sex marriage and anti-discrimination laws, and a history of promoting LGBTQ+ rights.
    These are just a few examples, and many other countries are making progress in protecting LGBTQ+ rights and promoting social acceptance. The specific rights and protections available in each country can vary, but generally, these are the countries that are considered to be the most welcoming and inclusive for LGBTQ+ people.
    You're completely discrediting the civil rights movements that gave you your rights as a gay man. I bet half your country disagrees with your 'identity' even now.
    Weird, I can go outside with no issue, even with my partner that is male and I am male myself.
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    That was obviously a hyperbole but when you go to the most extreme elements of the conservative right ' see podcasters like Nick Fuentes'. They essentially admit to what they really want,support or are okay with. And that is a HUGE part of the movement coalescing under Trumpism. These movements are on the rise, globally and in all of those countries you mention. You are not as safe as you think.
    And also, you said you where ALWAYS accepted. What does that post about 'accepted in 2025' have to do with anything? Do you literally not know your own countries history?

    You have rights because of civil rights movements fighting for it. And so you are legally protected. That does not mean your whole country accepts you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi-otsutsuki View Post
    That was obviously a hyperbole but when you go to the most extreme elements of the conservative right ' see podcasters like Nick Fuentes'. They essentially admit to what they really want,support or are okay with. And that is a HUGE part of the movement coalescing under Trumpism. These movements are on the rise, globally and in all of those countries you mention. You are not as safe as you think.
    And also, you said you where ALWAYS accepted. What does that post about 'accepted in 2025' have to do with anything? Do you literally not know your own countries history?
    I dont watch Nick Fuentes or people like him, I watch less extreme opinions because that kind of extreme doesnt interest me so I guess that's on me, fair.

    Also to your second question, I was more saying that LGBTQ+ people have been accepted for quite a long time now (which is good, just for clarification), it's not really a very recent thing. Once again I am talking mostly from an europe perspective, the US is a whole different thing on its own
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    I don't call less than a century 'a long time' tbh. Given the total history of civilization we have only been accepted legally, fairly recently. And are still persecuted in many countries. That should tell you something. We are still fighting for our rights on a global level.

    Also I have been in Europe ,lived there, worked there, voted there and have friends there. It is full of right wing bigotry and trumpism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    I dont watch Nick Fuentes or people like him, I watch less extreme opinions because that kind of extreme doesnt interest me so I guess that's on me, fair.

    Also to your second question, I was more saying that LGBTQ+ people have been accepted for quite a long time now (which is good, just for clarification), it's not really a very recent thing. Once again I am talking mostly from an europe perspective, the US is a whole different thing on its own
    Just for a US perspective, my childhood best friend just had to leave Florida after our governor made it near impossible for her to continue her hormone treatment for gender dysphoria. She’s in New York now where she’s able to access her healthcare normally. They are definitely coming after people, it’s basically the Christian Taliban. They’re already getting bills ready to ban gay marriage as well as lawyers to challenge the Supreme Court over Obergefell v. Hodges. Pregnant woman are dying due to doctors being afraid to treat them because if a miscarriage happens the doctor can be charged with murder. Human rights are being stripped away in the US, that’s why people are vocal and flying rainbow flags. The moment you are silent in this country is the moment you lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    I've watched a lot of news from the US and EU both, pretty much on the daily, hell I've even watched more republican and democrat channels alike, I have never heard of this, care to provide a source ?



    ?





    Weird, I can go outside with no issue, even with my partner that is male and I am male myself.
    Both US and Britain are aiming for a transgenocide, yes. No camps yet, but trans people are being treated like shit.

    The obscenity bill going through US courts, which while aiming at porn, anyone with a brain will know it will be used to harm the queer community across the board as the queer community's existence as automatically obscene.
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